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Pink Floyd hands down, I dont even consider dream theater to be a good band. Lyrics are amazing, musically compelling (like a ton of other people have said), basically just for all the other reasons already listed. I'll say why I don't think dream theater can hold a candle to pink floyd. They've got amazing technical ability, i'll give them that. Aside from that, I don't think they've got anything going for them. There's only so many times you can listen to them wailing on their instruments before it all starts to sound like the same stuff over and over again. They need to bring something else to the table before I'd consider them a good band.

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Yeah dude.......very well said...Symphony X is much much better than Dream Theater

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I like Dream Theater, and I like Pink Floyd, but I can't decide who I prefer because they are completely different genres.

It's like saying In Flames Vs. Deep Purple.

So yah. That was pointless.

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boo boo

Not a big fan of either of those bands.

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Scarlett O'Hara

That's ok Boo Boo, I can accept your opinion!

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Don

Don't be stupid. The genre is called Rock. And the styles are both progressive, and I thought the comparison was an interesting one. Although I'm a bit surprised by the landslide

Don

No wonder you don't find DT all that progressive, you think Radiohead and The Mars Volta are progressive. Sorry to tell you but you seem to have prog rock mixed up with experimental rock. Radiohead and The Mars Volta are experimental rock and not the least bit progressive - according to me and every other music critic I have ever corresponded with.


Funny you say that, because I find them to be the best progressive metal band. And are you saying you've heard every single signed prog metal band in the world?
I don't know how you could say they're not original if you've heard songs like "The Great Debate" or "Misunderstood," for example.


Just about every single Tool song creates the exact same moods by employing uninteresting styles and phrases. There is nothing original about Tool. Their use of boring chord progressions and mediocre melodies are far from original. And I've previously spoken about their so called "original lyrics."

You talk about how DT steal ideas from old prog bands, but did the obvious ever occur to you? That every single modern band (and every musician while we're here) has "stolen" something from other bands (or music). DT have found a way to compose music which has been obviously influenced by many of their favourite bands but at the same time made it their own by never repeating their sound. DT don't even have a trademark sound because each of their albums are so distinct. And as for Symphony X, you do know that their V album (music and concept) was admittedly to be pretty much stolen directly from DT's Scenes From a Memory, don't you?

I know someone else who needs to not only be shot (for thinking The Mars Volta are progressive) but injected with a slow acting virus causing irrefutable pain.

boo boo

Progressive Rock IS Experiemental Rock, dumbass.

What Critics?...Your elitist buddys?



No i havent heard them all.

But i have heard a good deal of progressive metal, and theres certainly more original bands out there, you obviously havent heard these bands if you think DT even compares, stop lying to yourself...DT are NOT original, i have listened to enough 70s prog to know where DT get their ideas from.


Oh yeah, you call Tool unoriginal, uninteresting, boring and pretentious and yet YOU LIKE DREAM THEATER???

I sense a little fanboism, im sure i am not alone on this.

If Tool are so unoriginal, you should at least name me one band who sounded like Tool before Tool.

True, but DT dont just steal, they copy, hell, there were times when i got them confused with Styx and Saga...And their instrumentals are often taken from the books of Rush and ELP, if you ever listened to these bands, you would realise that DT are merely copying their style, and they are incapable of improving upon the old styles they so love to beat to death.

You have the whole concept of progressive rock wrong, its about being PROGRESSIVE, ripping off old progressive bands dosent make YOU progressive, its about doing something different, which is what seperates Radiohead and Mars Volta from Dream Theater. This was the whole prog philosophy in the 70s, most progressive bands from that era stood out from each other, they didnt try to imitate each other, they did their own thing instead...Thats what being progressive is all about.

Also V is probably Symphony X's worst album, way to go on that one.

Among Mars Voltas biggest influences are Yes, Pink Floyd, Rush and King Crimson...How in the hell are they not prog?...They have most of the progressive elements (check the prog education thread) that i have already named and yet they are still pretty original.

I dont mean to boast, but i know more about progressive rock than you, WHY?...Because im Dr. Prog dammit.

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Incorrect. Do some research please, because I ain't explaining it. They are completely different styles.

Yes, okay then.

Mate, music is my living, so unless it's yours, I doubt you've heard more prog metal than me

I never said there wasn't.

Only one? Okay: Katatonia.

Yes, I already said DT cite their influences, what's wrong with that? And "YTSE Jam" is the only instrumental taken from Rush or ELP. It was meant to be a tribute to Rush's "YYZ."

I'm sorry, but they aren't prog, no matter what you think or believe.

I didn't realise you were so egotistical. Actually, the majority of Symphony X fans (from what I've gathered so far) feel that V is their greatest album.

I really doubt that...Judging by the whole experimental rock = prog rock thing.