Eurovision

The Batlord · 06-17-2022, 03:22 PM

I thought Brits didn't call themselves European? Only when they want some gold-plated tin cup I guess.

Guybrush · 06-17-2022, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I thought Brits didn't call themselves European? Only when they want some gold-plated tin cup I guess.

Brits are clearly going insane, but Eurovision is open to and has participants representing non-European countries as well, like Australia and Israel.

The Batlord · 06-17-2022, 04:07 PM

As long as you're white I guess.

Trollheart · 06-17-2022, 06:14 PM

Brits never thought of themselves as Europeans, mostly I guess because they aren't on the continent of Europe, but in reality because most English people (not saying Scottish or Welsh, but English) regard Europeans as "foreigners". Given their long history of picking a fight with any country they could, that's not very surprising. England has long believed itself superior to all of Europe (the phrase "filthy foreigners" was bandied about a lot in the 70s and 80s) and has at one time or another been at war, or in opposition to France, Germany, Holland (Netherlands duh), Spain, Portugal, Italy and probably a whole lot more besides. And Ireland of course. And Scotland. And Wales.

Guybrush · 06-18-2022, 03:41 AM

Nevermind that England was populated by Germans, French people, scandinavians of various sorts and live in a country littered with roman ruins. So much for not being a part of Europe.

**Marie Monday** · 06-18-2022, 05:25 AM

Yes and besides, England is just factually part of what is defined as Europe. Them claiming they're not is such misguided chauvinism

jadis · 06-18-2022, 05:41 AM

Europe is not a geographical entity though, but an ideological one. The continent is Eurasia, Europe is the line drawn on a map separating civilization from the Asiatic horde, Enlightenment from barbarism and so forth. Chauvinism isn't exactly the exclusive prerogative of the English.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwDrHqNZ9lo

**Marie Monday** · 06-18-2022, 05:52 AM

Oh sure. But the unwillingness to call themselves European is still irrational, and connected to all the ugly Brexit sentiments

Guybrush · 06-18-2022, 07:36 AM

We could make a better case of it up here in Norway, but we don't cause we're not silly like that.

rubber soul · 06-18-2022, 08:23 AM

Oh, you silly Europeans thinking you're so superior to everyone else.

Because everyone knows it's we Americans who are superior.

06-17-2022, 06:14 PM	#24 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,994	Brits never thought of themselves as Europeans, mostly I guess because they aren't on the continent of Europe, but in reality because most English people (not saying Scottish or Welsh, but English) regard Europeans as "foreigners". Given their long history of picking a fight with any country they could, that's not very surprising. England has long believed itself superior to all of Europe (the phrase "filthy foreigners" was bandied about a lot in the 70s and 80s) and has at one time or another been at war, or in opposition to France, Germany, Holland (Netherlands duh), Spain, Portugal, Italy and probably a whole lot more besides. And Ireland of course. And Scotland. And Wales. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

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Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	Nevermind that England was populated by Germans, French people, scandinavians of various sorts and live in a country littered with roman ruins. So much for not being a part of Europe. __________________ Something Completely Different

06-18-2022, 07:36 AM	#29 (permalink)
Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	We could make a better case of it up here in Norway, but we don't cause we're not silly like that. __________________ Something Completely Different

06-18-2022, 05:41 AM	#27 (permalink)
jadis Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: dont ask Posts: 1,360	Europe is not a geographical entity though, but an ideological one. The continent is Eurasia, Europe is the line drawn on a map separating civilization from the Asiatic horde, Enlightenment from barbarism and so forth. Chauvinism isn't exactly the exclusive prerogative of the English. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwDrHqNZ9lo