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Hell, even Animal Collective isn't this weird.

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Surell

Well I'm really sorry to have such an attitude, i guess I was just a little flustered after DJ's comment (still haven't gotten a response) and kinda raged on you. I will grant you that Grizzly Bear aren't the most experimental band at least in the general sound of their recordings, though the way they meld genres could be qualified maybe as unique or fairly idiosyncratic, which i think is innovating in its own right. While they're in the same field as the bands you listed, who are all credible in their own right, I think their sound is distinct - the music is fuller than Beach House, less electronic than the xx, and more folk/jazz oriented than Tame Impala. They also write their lyrics with a different tone, and on Shields at least show an entirely different concept in the writing.

Pertaining to the Rihanna comparison, she as well as Gaga do a good job to revitalize electro types of music in pop, but it's more like taking this part of the sound and having them sing on it, whereas Grizzly Bear are blending different styles and creating something a little more distinct with it (of course, that's just how i see it, i'm pretty lousy with a lot of new music though so i may be all kinds of wrong). Radiohead, a band hailed for its innovation, are also masters of concocting entirely unique music out of a sum of their influences, and freely admit it.

Really, nothing could be called totally original, at least in terms of the songwriting, because if it simply has a rhythm there's an inspiration it can likely be linked to. The most innovative thing about the 60s - 70s and let's say the 80s was the technology developed for those eras. This is where bands like the Beatles were truly innovative, as they pioneered techniques in their recording that musicians/producers still look back on, and from there developments in things like synthesizers and electronic music production allowed more musical opportunities. But even the theremin, a technically electronic instrument depending on the model, has been in play since "Good Vibrations" and even before then.

Brian Wilson, whose songwriting innovation with the Beach Boys that influenced even Paul McCartney, laced his particularly avant-pop-before-that-was-really-a-thing lost masterpiece SMiLE with references to his inspirations: 50s Doo Wop and Soul ("Gee," "I Wanna Be Around"); old timey folk tunes ("My Sunshine"); Ragtime ("Look"); even "Heroes and Villains" is rumored to be a melodic flip of his all time favorite classical piece, "Rhapsody in Blue," and if you listen closely to one moment in that piece you can make out where the vocal melody of the faster section (that begins the song) comes from.

TL;DR truly there is no entirely original music, maybe occasionally there is something that shifts paradigms (The Beatles, the Beach Boys, electronic music) or challenges the audience (the Velvet Underground, Captain Beefheart (who can be traced back to caveman drawings of sex and mutilation as well as the blues)), or whatever else you may consider an innovation. But most of what it comes down to is what kind of twist they put on the sounds their engaging. Or to me, it seems that way; especially at this point in the game, where music technology hasn't really created anything new to work into songwriting.

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djchameleon

Why were you so highly offended by my comment? I'm not trying to discredit the music that Grizzly Bear and Animal Collective make but to pass them off as being pop and claiming that they are innovative to pop music just doesn't seem to make sense to me. Artists that are in the top 40 are still going through that phase where they are adapting electronic music into their work. It may be dying down some but it's still being heavily used.

I just looked over the current top 40 here:
Top 40 Chart for the week of September 07, 2013 - American Top 40 With Ryan Seacrest

Nothing really stands out as innovative. Also as far as pop is concerned the genre just changes with time and adapts to current trends. Sure, there are a few artists on that list that tend to borrow from their influences that come from different decades but that's the state of music in general lately.

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