The Pop of Today Vs Pop Of Yesterday

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea · 06-14-2013, 11:15 PM

In fact, come to think of it, I'll extend that challenge one step further: Find me any recent song of any genre that can compete with Faithless Love in terms of beauty and songwriting prowess.

I'm all ears.

edwardc77 · 06-15-2013, 06:21 PM

When I think about modern pop music ,usually what comes to my mind are words like formulaic,dumbed down and lowest common denominator.
For pop music everything starting really going downhill in the 90's .
Mind you there was horrible pop music in every decade,but also great music with interesting sounds and artistic value.
Some examples of melodic works that managed stand the test of time are albums like Pet Sounds, Thriller and Rio and songs like Everybody wants to rule the world (Tears for Fears) And Enjoy the Silence (Depeche Mode)

djchameleon · 06-16-2013, 04:45 AM

Drive, since you like to make silly comparisons.

Here is a song from 1974 that hit number one on the country charts

Loving that lyrical prowess right there

Here is a number one from 2013

Out of the two songs that you posted I'd be more inclined to listen to the one that's modern because it's more accessible and has less "twang".
Even the song I just posted from The Band Perry would get more repeated listens from more as opposed to the Gary Stewart drudgery.

There are plenty of modern songs that have passion especially in the country genre but if you are blinded by nostalgia for the past which you feel was a greater period in time for music in general then you wouldn't be able to see it. Once again, I say take off the rose colored glasses.

Dark Horse · 06-16-2013, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

I posted somewhere a few months ago the top 20 now, the top 20 20 years ago and the top 20 40 years ago.

And guess what, all 3 were filled with crap.
You just forget the bad stuff.

There's probably a little more now but not much, and that's because only 4 companies control virtually everything to do with music.
It's not that music is getting worse it's because so few people control what gets heard.

Pretty much.

Remember the Archies, guys? No? Good.

Screen13 · 06-16-2013, 12:52 PM

Meet the Mainstream of The 50's! There was just as much crap on the top of the charts then as now.

Plus, you had crap like this happening. Here's Pat Boone giving a whiter than Clorox version of one of the finest songs ever actually selling it to the 50's version of Idol fans. Same then, same now.

Warning: This may give you nightmares.

~~Lord Larehip~~ · 06-16-2013, 02:28 PM

"Crotchety old men seem to have won this argument.

Modern pop music is too loud and does sound all the same, just like angry old types have been saying for 70 years.

A team from Spain analyzed music from a 55 year period, using an archive known as the Million Song Dataset, and found that songs have indeed become both louder and more homogenized in terms of chords and melodies."

The Million Song Dataset - Science Concludes Modern Music Too Loud, All Sounds The Same

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea · 06-16-2013, 08:49 PM

@djchameleon,

You know what? I still like the 1974 song better. Why? Because both sound like a hundred other songs that had already been written by their time, but at least the 1974 song came first.

And The Band Perry song still can't even remotely come close to Faithless Love. I mean, it's like ... no contest! I'd still like to hear any song in the past 10 years that can approach it.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea · 06-16-2013, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Horse

Pretty much.

Remember the Archies, guys? No? Good.

Oh, come now! Even the bubble gum songs back then were pretty good! The Archies is a great example. You kinda sorta like this song and you know it! Don't deny it!!

Here4Muzik · 06-16-2013, 09:01 PM

I think the difference between Pop 50 years ago and Pop now is the agenda. Today... speaking in terms of the majority, the goal of making the record is to produce the most profit possible regardless of talent/writing/producing etc.

Obviously 50 years ago Pop artists and record companies still intended to make the most amount of revenue as possible, but it did not come at cost of letting the music suffer. In today's music, especially with the internet, there is such a demand for QUICK music. And because people want stuff quickly, record companies are willing to let music suffer because they know that they can still market it well enough to sell.

ZiggyStardust · 06-17-2013, 01:10 AM

Yesterday,
All pop sounded better, it's fair to say
Now it looks as though it's turned to grey
Oh yesterday came suddenly
Why it had to change, I don't know, they wouldn't say
They played something wrong now I long for yesterday

*Sorry.*

06-14-2013, 11:15 PM	#21 (permalink)
DriveYourCarDownToTheSea AllTheWhileYouChargeAFee Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Kansas City Posts: 1,174	In fact, come to think of it, I'll extend that challenge one step further: Find me any recent song of any genre that can compete with Faithless Love in terms of beauty and songwriting prowess. I'm all ears. __________________ Stop and find a pretty shell for her Beach Boys vs Beatles comparisons begin here

06-15-2013, 06:21 PM	#22 (permalink)
edwardc77 Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Italy Posts: 128	When I think about modern pop music ,usually what comes to my mind are words like formulaic,dumbed down and lowest common denominator. For pop music everything starting really going downhill in the 90's . Mind you there was horrible pop music in every decade,but also great music with interesting sounds and artistic value. Some examples of melodic works that managed stand the test of time are albums like Pet Sounds, Thriller and Rio and songs like Everybody wants to rule the world (Tears for Fears) And Enjoy the Silence (Depeche Mode) __________________ Thought he lost everything then he lost a whole lot more.... Last edited by edwardc77; 06-15-2013 at 06:28 PM.

06-16-2013, 12:52 PM	#25 (permalink)
Screen13 Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,388	Meet the Mainstream of The 50's! There was just as much crap on the top of the charts then as now. Plus, you had crap like this happening. Here's Pat Boone giving a whiter than Clorox version of one of the finest songs ever actually selling it to the 50's version of Idol fans. Same then, same now. Warning: This may give you nightmares. Last edited by Screen13; 06-16-2013 at 05:45 PM.

06-16-2013, 08:49 PM	#27 (permalink)
DriveYourCarDownToTheSea AllTheWhileYouChargeAFee Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Kansas City Posts: 1,174	@djchameleon, You know what? I still like the 1974 song better. Why? Because both sound like a hundred other songs that had already been written by their time, but at least the 1974 song came first. And The Band Perry song still can't even remotely come close to Faithless Love. I mean, it's like ... no contest! I'd still like to hear any song in the past 10 years that can approach it. __________________ Stop and find a pretty shell for her Beach Boys vs Beatles comparisons begin here

06-16-2013, 09:01 PM	#29 (permalink)
Here4Muzik Groupie Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 14	I think the difference between Pop 50 years ago and Pop now is the agenda. Today... speaking in terms of the majority, the goal of making the record is to produce the most profit possible regardless of talent/writing/producing etc. Obviously 50 years ago Pop artists and record companies still intended to make the most amount of revenue as possible, but it did not come at cost of letting the music suffer. In today's music, especially with the internet, there is such a demand for QUICK music. And because people want stuff quickly, record companies are willing to let music suffer because they know that they can still market it well enough to sell. __________________ KING OF SWING

06-16-2013, 02:28 PM	#26 (permalink)
~~Lord Larehip~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 899	"Crotchety old men seem to have won this argument. Modern pop music is too loud and does sound all the same, just like angry old types have been saying for 70 years. A team from Spain analyzed music from a 55 year period, using an archive known as the Million Song Dataset, and found that songs have indeed become both louder and more homogenized in terms of chords and melodies." The Million Song Dataset - Science Concludes Modern Music Too Loud, All Sounds The Same

06-17-2013, 01:10 AM	#30 (permalink)
ZiggyStardust Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Mars Posts: 108	Yesterday, All pop sounded better, it's fair to say Now it looks as though it's turned to grey Oh yesterday came suddenly Why it had to change, I don't know, they wouldn't say They played something wrong now I long for yesterday Sorry. __________________ Welcome to the internet, where opinions are like toilets; everyone thinks theirs are perfect but the public ones stink.