The Pop of Today Vs Pop Of Yesterday

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea · 03-25-2014, 09:39 PM

Here might be another one ...

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea · 03-25-2014, 10:02 PM

This one is almost too obvious, but ...

I should put these two in that thread about one song sounding suspiciously like another.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea · 03-25-2014, 11:07 PM

Don't think White Denim considers themselves a "Southern Rock" band, but they do have a bit of a "Southern" twang (and they're from Texas, to make it authentic!)

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea · 03-25-2014, 11:47 PM

Last one.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea · 03-26-2014, 12:51 AM

I've been trying reeeally hard to find someone who can hold their own against Stevie Wonder. I found some artists in the so-called "neo soul" genre who at least sound like they would be capable of writing something as good as Wonder. I think the styles might be too different these days, maybe. But I am NOT remotely knowledgeable on this stuff, the following is my best find from a 15 minute internet search in a genre I know almost nothing about. It sounded pretty good, though I can't really say it competes against the Stevie Wonder tune.

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That truly brings tears to my eyes. Of of my top 3 best-written songs ever.

djchameleon · 03-26-2014, 01:19 AM

If you like that Raheem Devaughn song you may like Maxwell. I feel like he's a slightly better match. Also John Legend is another good one in a similar vein.

idk I don't really like to compare artists from today with artists from the past even though they may pull influences they are creating their own music and not trying to be the new version of some older artist.

Edit: Might as well include a John Legend track.

Neapolitan · 03-26-2014, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DriveYourCarDownToTheSea

Last one.

I didn't like James Taylor at first, there was one song he did I found annoying Copperline, (I swore he was singing "a cup of lime.") He wrote that song with Reynolds Price. It took me a long while before I liked him. Jim Croce was more a favorite of mine as far as a singer/song-writer/guitar player goes. I also like Nick Drake, Gordon Lightfoot, and Joni Mitchell. Something about them seems more authentic and more original than some of the newer artists out now. An exception would be First Aid Kit, a duo who seems like they that have been transplanted from the 70s to now.

I don't like Jack Johnson. I won't listen to him or care for his music. I Got You by the Split Enz was much more of a better song so that goes to prove Pop music has gotten worse.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea · 03-26-2014, 10:09 AM

@djchameleon: Yeah I had checked out a few John Legend tunes too. My choice above was pretty arbitrary.

@Neapolitan: Funny you should mention Copperline, that's one of the few James Taylor songs I don't like. I'm more into his stuff from the album JT and earlier. Interesting to hear you don't like Jack Johnson, he's got such a nice, mellow voice.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea · 03-30-2014, 01:26 AM

I'm currently reading a book on technology, and one thing they were discussing was the migration of music from physical form to digital form. Anyway, I was surprised when they mentioned a study which said music had actually gotten better in recent years. Anyway, their footnotes had a link to the study they cited, so I was really curious and looked it up. It's definitely not how I would judge the quality of music (which is extremely subjective, needless to day), but I found it interesting nonetheless.

The full copy of the study is $5 to download. Didn't want to bother doing that, but they have a synopsis of it here, which is good-enough to get the gist of what they're saying:

Copyright Protection and the Quality of Recorded Music Since Napster

Quote:

Waldfogel's first index of music quality is based on critics' retrospective lists of the best music (for example, "best of the decade"). It encompasses 88 different rankings from the United States, England, Canada, and Ireland, and covers more than 16,000 musical works from 1960 to 2007. Statistically combining information from these sources results in an overall quality index that rises between 1960 and 1970, declines through the 1980s, rises again in the mid-1990s, declines in the latter half of the 1990s, and is stable for the period after 2000. Waldfogel concludes that although the index was falling prior to the appearance of Napster, it is stable after 2000 and thus shows no evidence of a decline in quality.

His second and third indexes are derived from data on radio airplay and sales of music. Music is aired on radio less, and sells less, as it gets older; but if a vintage is better, it will receive more sales or airplay after accounting for such depreciation. Using data on the frequency with which songs originally released as early as 1960 were aired on the radio from 2004 to 2008, Waldfogel constructs an airplay-based vintage quality index suggesting that music quality rose from 1960 to 1970, fell until at least 1985, and rose substantially after 1999. The analogous sales-based index is derived from Recording Industry Association of America Gold (sales greater than 500,000 copies) and Platinum (sales greater than one million copies) certifications. The sales-based index echoes the result of other indexes: it rises from 1960 to 1970, falls to the 1980s, and then rises sharply after 1999.

Kinda interesting, and it does seem to reflect my own tastes, even if it's not how I would judge the quality of music myself.

RL Clown · 06-22-2014, 04:03 PM

I don't know much about Pop, but I must say that the Pop of yesterday was more meaningful than the pop of today. That's just me. I respect different viewpoints; I just felt like cashing in an opinion...

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DriveYourCarDownToTheSea AllTheWhileYouChargeAFee Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Kansas City Posts: 1,178	Bonus attempt ... I've been trying reeeally hard to find someone who can hold their own against Stevie Wonder. I found some artists in the so-called "neo soul" genre who at least sound like they would be capable of writing something as good as Wonder. I think the styles might be too different these days, maybe. But I am NOT remotely knowledgeable on this stuff, the following is my best find from a 15 minute internet search in a genre I know almost nothing about. It sounded pretty good, though I can't really say it competes against the Stevie Wonder tune. ^ That truly brings tears to my eyes. Of of my top 3 best-written songs ever. __________________ Stop and find a pretty shell for her Beach Boys vs Beatles comparisons begin here

03-26-2014, 10:09 AM	#238 (permalink)
DriveYourCarDownToTheSea AllTheWhileYouChargeAFee Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Kansas City Posts: 1,178	@djchameleon: Yeah I had checked out a few John Legend tunes too. My choice above was pretty arbitrary. @Neapolitan: Funny you should mention Copperline, that's one of the few James Taylor songs I don't like. I'm more into his stuff from the album JT and earlier. Interesting to hear you don't like Jack Johnson, he's got such a nice, mellow voice. __________________ Stop and find a pretty shell for her Beach Boys vs Beatles comparisons begin here

06-22-2014, 04:03 PM	#240 (permalink)
RL Clown Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 182	I don't know much about Pop, but I must say that the Pop of yesterday was more meaningful than the pop of today. That's just me. I respect different viewpoints; I just felt like cashing in an opinion...