The Pop of Today Vs Pop Of Yesterday

djchameleon · 02-16-2014, 10:19 PM

When do you think that formula was born? During that same period of time that you glorify. So all the music that you feel was so much more talented was manufactured as well.

~~Soulflower~~ · 02-17-2014, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92

Okay, I think I will go by decades because some of the artists actually were popular repetitively yearly

I guess I will start with the 1950's. We can go to other past decades but I just wanted to start with this one.

These were the top 200 songs of the 1950's decade
Acclaimed Music - The Top 200 Songs from the 1950s

Based on this list these are Top 5 popular artists from this decade

Elvis Presley- He has the most hits out of all of them
Chuck Berry
Jerry Lee Lewis
Little Richard
Ray Charles

The last four do not have the same number of hits from this decade as Elvis but they have more in comparison to the others listed

I'll add my opinion of artists who had just as much talent who released great songs during this era as well that did not have as many hits as the above.

Anybody can add, I think I will do this for each era.

1. Jackie Wilson
2. Muddy Holly
3. The Drifters
4. Fats Dominos
5. Ella Fitzgerald
6. The Dells

~~Soulflower~~ · 02-17-2014, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Necromancer

I guess you could state that the 70's pop music evolved all the way through the decade itself, I mean you had bands like America, James Taylor, Cat Stevens and Neil Young that best fit in the folk orientated pop section of the spectrum.

I will go out on a limb and suggest that Elton John was one of the first artist to bring pop the closest to the rock threshold. From there on it was all blues rock and progressive.

That is an interesting point.

I notice that each of the decades have their own explosions of genres and movements like in the 60's you had the British explosion with bands like the Beatles and Rolling Stones but you also had the big rise of Motown and African American cross over acts.

That is an interesting point about Elton as well. He has done so many genres.

neardeathexperience · 03-06-2014, 09:11 PM

Just a few hit songs from the Summer of 1965
1. Rolling Stones Satisfaction
2. Sonny And Cher I Got You Babe
3. Elvis Crying In The Chapel
4. Byrds Mr. Tambourine Man
5. Jay And The Americans Cara Mia
6. Jackie Deshannon What The World Needs Now
7. Beach Boys California Girls Help Me Rhonda
8. Billy Joe Royal Down In The Boondocks
9. Supremes Back In My Arms Again
10. Johnny Rivers Seventh Son
11. The Righteous Brothers Unchained Melody
12. Guess Who Shakin All Over
13. Beatles Help
14. James Brown Papas Got A Brand New Bag
15. Tom Jones It's Not Unusual
16. Beatles Ticket To Ride
17. Otis Reading I've Been Loving You Too Long
18. Herman's Hermits Mrs Brown You've Got A Lovely Daughter
19. Lesley Gore Sunshine Lollipops And Rainbows
These are, but a few songs from the artists of the Summer of 1965. Although one could argue that the pop music of that era was manufactured formulated I will pt forth the observation that the diversity of the bands is light years ahead of what we are being treated to these days............

Surell · 03-07-2014, 01:33 AM

No it's not. The top charts now involve bubblegum, hip hop, metal, indie, r&b, etc etc.

djchameleon · 03-07-2014, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by neardeathexperience

Just a few hit songs from the Summer of 1965
1. Rolling Stones Satisfaction
2. Sonny And Cher I Got You Babe
3. Elvis Crying In The Chapel
4. Byrds Mr. Tambourine Man
5. Jay And The Americans Cara Mia
6. Jackie Deshannon What The World Needs Now
7. Beach Boys California Girls Help Me Rhonda
8. Billy Joe Royal Down In The Boondocks
9. Supremes Back In My Arms Again
10. Johnny Rivers Seventh Son
11. The Righteous Brothers Unchained Melody
12. Guess Who Shakin All Over
13. Beatles Help
14. James Brown Papas Got A Brand New Bag
15. Tom Jones It's Not Unusual
16. Beatles Ticket To Ride
17. Otis Reading I've Been Loving You Too Long
18. Herman's Hermits Mrs Brown You've Got A Lovely Daughter
19. Lesley Gore Sunshine Lollipops And Rainbows
These are, but a few songs from the artists of the Summer of 1965. Although one could argue that the pop music of that era was manufactured formulated I will pt forth the observation that the diversity of the bands is light years ahead of what we are being treated to these days............

you look at that list and see diversity? really?

~~Soulflower~~ · 03-07-2014, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

you look at that list and see diversity? really?

The list is very diverse actually... why don't you think so?

djchameleon · 03-07-2014, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92

The list is very diverse actually... why don't you think so?

You call two genres diverse?

That's all I see listed there.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea · 03-07-2014, 06:21 PM

I see three: Pop, rock and Motown.

Not that that makes it much more diverse.

listener101 · 03-07-2014, 08:01 PM

The year 1965 was not as diverse as the years immediately following. That late 1960's psychedelic revolution really opened things up for eclectic experimentation.

I find the 1980's pretty diverse for the most part. Here you have soul, disco, funk, r&b, rock, soft rock, country, straight ahead pop, and even some really innovative new wave stuff. You could find all that back to back on the same radio station back then.

1980 Billboard top 100

1 "Call Me" Blondie
2 "Another Brick in the Wall, Part II" Pink Floyd
3 "Magic" Olivia Newton-John
4 "Rock with You" Michael Jackson
5 "Do That to Me One More Time" Captain & Tennille
6 "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" Queen
7 "Coming Up" Paul McCartney
8 "Funkytown" Lipps Inc
9 "It's Still Rock and Roll to Me" Billy Joel
10 "The Rose" Bette Midler
11 "Escape (The Piña Colada song)" Rupert Holmes
12 "Cars" Gary Numan
13 "Cruisin" Smokey Robinson
14 "Working My Way Back to You/Forgive Me, Girl" The Spinners
15 "Lost in Love" Air Supply
16 "Little Jeannie" Elton John
17 "Ride Like the Wind" Christopher Cross
18 "Upside Down" Diana Ross
19 "Please Don't Go" KC and the Sunshine Band
20 "Babe" Styx
21 "With You I'm Born Again" Billy Preston and Syreeta
22 "Shining Star" The Manhattans
23 "Still" Commodores
24 "Yes, I'm Ready" Teri DeSario & KC
25 "Sexy Eyes" Dr. Hook
26 "Steal Away" Robbie Dupree
27 "Biggest Part of Me" Ambrosia
28 "This Is It" Kenny Loggins
29 "Cupid/I've Loved You for a Long Time" The Spinners
30 "Let's Get Serious" Jermaine Jackson
31 "Don't Fall in Love with a Dreamer" Kenny Rogers & Kim Carnes
32 "Sailing" Christopher Cross
33 "Longer" Dan Fogelberg
34 "Coward of the County" Kenny Rogers
35 "Ladies' Night" Kool & the Gang
36 "Too Hot" Kool & the Gang
37 "Take Your Time (Do It Right)" The SOS Band
38 "No More Tears (Enough Is Enough)" Barbra Streisand & Donna Summer
39 "More Love" Kim Carnes
40 "Pop Muzik" M
41 "Brass in Pocket" The Pretenders
42 "Special Lady" Ray, Goodman & Brown
43 "Send One Your Love" Stevie Wonder
44 "The Second Time Around" Shalamar
45 "We Don't Talk Anymore" Cliff Richard
46 "Heartache Tonight" Eagles
47 "Stomp!" The Brothers Johnson
48 "Tired of Toein' the Line" Rocky Burnette
49 "Better Love Next Time" Dr. Hook
50 "Him" Rupert Holmes
51 "Against the Wind" Bob Seger and the Silver Bullet Band
52 "On the Radio" Donna Summer
53 "Emotional Rescue" The Rolling Stones
54 "Rise" Herb Alpert
55 "All Out of Love" Air Supply
56 "Cool Change" Little River Band
57 "You're Only Lonely" J.D. Souther
58 "Desire" Andy Gibb
59 "Let My Love Open the Door" Pete Townshend
60 "Romeo's Tune" Steve Forbert
61 "Daydream Believer" Anne Murray
62 "I Can't Tell You Why" Eagles
63 "Don't Let Go" Isaac Hayes
64 "Don't Do Me Like That" Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
65 "She's Out of My Life" Michael Jackson
66 "Fame" Irene Cara
67 "Fire Lake" Bob Seger
68 "How Do I Make You" Linda Ronstadt
69 "Into the Night" Benny Mardones
70 "Let Me Love You Tonight" Pure Prairie League
71 "Misunderstanding" Genesis
72 "An American Dream" The Dirt Band
73 "One Fine Day" Carole King
74 "Dim All the Lights" Donna Summer
75 "You May Be Right" Billy Joel
76 "Hurt So Bad" Linda Ronstadt
77 "Should've Never Let You Go" Neil & Dara Sedaka
78 "Pilot of the Airwaves" Charlie Dore
79 "Off the Wall" Michael Jackson
80 "I Pledge My Love" Peaches & Herb
81 "The Long Run" Eagles
82 "Stand by Me" Mickey Gilley
83 "Heartbreaker" Pat Benatar
84 "Déjà Vu" Dionne Warwick
85 "Drivin' My Life Away" Eddie Rabbitt
86 "Take the Long Way Home" Supertramp
87 "Sara" Fleetwood Mac
88 "Wait For Me" Hall & Oates
89 "Jojo" Boz Scaggs
90 "September Morn" Neil Diamond
91 "Give Me the Night" George Benson
92 "Broken Hearted Me" Anne Murray
93 "You Decorated My Life" Kenny Rogers
94 "Tusk" Fleetwood Mac
95 "I Wanna Be Your Lover" Prince
96 "In America" Charlie Daniels Band
97 "Breakdown Dead Ahead" Boz Scaggs
98 "Ships" Barry Manilow
99 "All Night Long" Joe Walsh
100 "Refugee" Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers

Today's pop vs. yesterday's pop ? That's a loaded question but I find the stuff is much better today for loudness and rhythm, the stuff of yesterday had much more emphasis on chord changes and dynamics (less consistent volume-wise). I personally prefer the pop of yesterday but the pop of today packs a seriously energetic punch.

All IMO, YMMV.

03-07-2014, 06:21 PM	#179 (permalink)
DriveYourCarDownToTheSea AllTheWhileYouChargeAFee Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Kansas City Posts: 1,174	I see three: Pop, rock and Motown. Not that that makes it much more diverse. __________________ Stop and find a pretty shell for her Beach Boys vs Beatles comparisons begin here

03-07-2014, 08:01 PM	#180 (permalink)
listener101 Groupie Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 27	The year 1965 was not as diverse as the years immediately following. That late 1960's psychedelic revolution really opened things up for eclectic experimentation. I find the 1980's pretty diverse for the most part. Here you have soul, disco, funk, r&b, rock, soft rock, country, straight ahead pop, and even some really innovative new wave stuff. You could find all that back to back on the same radio station back then. 1980 Billboard top 100 1 "Call Me" Blondie 2 "Another Brick in the Wall, Part II" Pink Floyd 3 "Magic" Olivia Newton-John 4 "Rock with You" Michael Jackson 5 "Do That to Me One More Time" Captain & Tennille 6 "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" Queen 7 "Coming Up" Paul McCartney 8 "Funkytown" Lipps Inc 9 "It's Still Rock and Roll to Me" Billy Joel 10 "The Rose" Bette Midler 11 "Escape (The Piña Colada song)" Rupert Holmes 12 "Cars" Gary Numan 13 "Cruisin" Smokey Robinson 14 "Working My Way Back to You/Forgive Me, Girl" The Spinners 15 "Lost in Love" Air Supply 16 "Little Jeannie" Elton John 17 "Ride Like the Wind" Christopher Cross 18 "Upside Down" Diana Ross 19 "Please Don't Go" KC and the Sunshine Band 20 "Babe" Styx 21 "With You I'm Born Again" Billy Preston and Syreeta 22 "Shining Star" The Manhattans 23 "Still" Commodores 24 "Yes, I'm Ready" Teri DeSario & KC 25 "Sexy Eyes" Dr. Hook 26 "Steal Away" Robbie Dupree 27 "Biggest Part of Me" Ambrosia 28 "This Is It" Kenny Loggins 29 "Cupid/I've Loved You for a Long Time" The Spinners 30 "Let's Get Serious" Jermaine Jackson 31 "Don't Fall in Love with a Dreamer" Kenny Rogers & Kim Carnes 32 "Sailing" Christopher Cross 33 "Longer" Dan Fogelberg 34 "Coward of the County" Kenny Rogers 35 "Ladies' Night" Kool & the Gang 36 "Too Hot" Kool & the Gang 37 "Take Your Time (Do It Right)" The SOS Band 38 "No More Tears (Enough Is Enough)" Barbra Streisand & Donna Summer 39 "More Love" Kim Carnes 40 "Pop Muzik" M 41 "Brass in Pocket" The Pretenders 42 "Special Lady" Ray, Goodman & Brown 43 "Send One Your Love" Stevie Wonder 44 "The Second Time Around" Shalamar 45 "We Don't Talk Anymore" Cliff Richard 46 "Heartache Tonight" Eagles 47 "Stomp!" The Brothers Johnson 48 "Tired of Toein' the Line" Rocky Burnette 49 "Better Love Next Time" Dr. Hook 50 "Him" Rupert Holmes 51 "Against the Wind" Bob Seger and the Silver Bullet Band 52 "On the Radio" Donna Summer 53 "Emotional Rescue" The Rolling Stones 54 "Rise" Herb Alpert 55 "All Out of Love" Air Supply 56 "Cool Change" Little River Band 57 "You're Only Lonely" J.D. Souther 58 "Desire" Andy Gibb 59 "Let My Love Open the Door" Pete Townshend 60 "Romeo's Tune" Steve Forbert 61 "Daydream Believer" Anne Murray 62 "I Can't Tell You Why" Eagles 63 "Don't Let Go" Isaac Hayes 64 "Don't Do Me Like That" Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers 65 "She's Out of My Life" Michael Jackson 66 "Fame" Irene Cara 67 "Fire Lake" Bob Seger 68 "How Do I Make You" Linda Ronstadt 69 "Into the Night" Benny Mardones 70 "Let Me Love You Tonight" Pure Prairie League 71 "Misunderstanding" Genesis 72 "An American Dream" The Dirt Band 73 "One Fine Day" Carole King 74 "Dim All the Lights" Donna Summer 75 "You May Be Right" Billy Joel 76 "Hurt So Bad" Linda Ronstadt 77 "Should've Never Let You Go" Neil & Dara Sedaka 78 "Pilot of the Airwaves" Charlie Dore 79 "Off the Wall" Michael Jackson 80 "I Pledge My Love" Peaches & Herb 81 "The Long Run" Eagles 82 "Stand by Me" Mickey Gilley 83 "Heartbreaker" Pat Benatar 84 "Déjà Vu" Dionne Warwick 85 "Drivin' My Life Away" Eddie Rabbitt 86 "Take the Long Way Home" Supertramp 87 "Sara" Fleetwood Mac 88 "Wait For Me" Hall & Oates 89 "Jojo" Boz Scaggs 90 "September Morn" Neil Diamond 91 "Give Me the Night" George Benson 92 "Broken Hearted Me" Anne Murray 93 "You Decorated My Life" Kenny Rogers 94 "Tusk" Fleetwood Mac 95 "I Wanna Be Your Lover" Prince 96 "In America" Charlie Daniels Band 97 "Breakdown Dead Ahead" Boz Scaggs 98 "Ships" Barry Manilow 99 "All Night Long" Joe Walsh 100 "Refugee" Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers Today's pop vs. yesterday's pop ? That's a loaded question but I find the stuff is much better today for loudness and rhythm, the stuff of yesterday had much more emphasis on chord changes and dynamics (less consistent volume-wise). I personally prefer the pop of yesterday but the pop of today packs a seriously energetic punch. All IMO, YMMV. Last edited by listener101; 03-08-2014 at 09:01 AM.

03-06-2014, 09:11 PM	#174 (permalink)
neardeathexperience Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 531	Just a few hit songs from the Summer of 1965 1. Rolling Stones Satisfaction 2. Sonny And Cher I Got You Babe 3. Elvis Crying In The Chapel 4. Byrds Mr. Tambourine Man 5. Jay And The Americans Cara Mia 6. Jackie Deshannon What The World Needs Now 7. Beach Boys California Girls Help Me Rhonda 8. Billy Joe Royal Down In The Boondocks 9. Supremes Back In My Arms Again 10. Johnny Rivers Seventh Son 11. The Righteous Brothers Unchained Melody 12. Guess Who Shakin All Over 13. Beatles Help 14. James Brown Papas Got A Brand New Bag 15. Tom Jones It's Not Unusual 16. Beatles Ticket To Ride 17. Otis Reading I've Been Loving You Too Long 18. Herman's Hermits Mrs Brown You've Got A Lovely Daughter 19. Lesley Gore Sunshine Lollipops And Rainbows These are, but a few songs from the artists of the Summer of 1965. Although one could argue that the pop music of that era was manufactured formulated I will pt forth the observation that the diversity of the bands is light years ahead of what we are being treated to these days............