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galt54 02-04-2014 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DriveYourCarDownToTheSea (Post 1411724)

Music has nothing to do with politics or education.
Music has (or should) have nothing to do with politics.

But there is a link between music and education. Education has everything to do with the mind - and the mind has everything to do with music. Where does a piece of music come from if not from the mind of the songwriter/composer and the performer(s)?

And what will happen to a society's music if the schools of that society destroy the minds of the future songwriters/composers and performers?

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 02-04-2014 07:00 PM
I still have yet to hear from you. Were these songs written by uneducated idiots?
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Originally Posted by DriveYourCarDownToTheSea (Post 1411624)
As someone who was as skeptical as you of modern music a mere 7 months ago (see first few pages of this thread), I seriously wonder how much you've actually listened to. Or maybe you're insisting music today is bad because it gives you another reason to rant against the education system?

Tell me these songs aren't melodic. You don't seem to be listening or critiquing the songs shown in this thread. Here is your chance. I actually sing these songs in the shower.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 02-04-2014 07:01 PM
These too. Please tell me why these songs were written by poorly educated people. What is it, in these songs, which identify them as products of a watered-down education system?
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Originally Posted by DriveYourCarDownToTheSea (Post 1411630)
Browse through some of the videos I've shown.

If you like Jimi Hendrix you'll like this. Frankly I think this particular tune is an improvement on anything Hendrix did, though I admit much of my reasoning for that is because Kevin Parker's got a nicer singing voice.



If you like the Beatles you'll like this (same band).



And as I said before, as much as I love the Beach Boys I don't think Brian Wilson could have thought of something like this. Part of it's the tools available at the time, but not all of it. This is more complex than I think Wilson would ever have been comfortable with.



LISTEN to each of these a few times and then I dare you to come back and tell me they suck.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 02-04-2014 07:27 PM
Also, listen to this and tell me these are unsophisticated songwriters:
Grooveshark - Free Music Streaming, Online Music

Don't cop out galt, listen to these and tell me what's wrong with them.

galt54 02-04-2014 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DriveYourCarDownToTheSea (Post 1413537)
Also, listen to this and tell me these are unsophisticated songwriters:
Grooveshark - Free Music Streaming, Online Music

Don't cop out galt, listen to these and tell me what's wrong with them.
Hello! Right now I am on vacation in Vietnam. I am visiting my vietnamese wife's relatives. I am using my brother-in-law's computer right now. This computer does not seem to have the abiltiy to play audio/video clips. Ordinary citizens in Vietnam do not have the most modern technology.

So I am sorry - I will not be able to listen to the music you are supplying before I get back to my home in Sweden and have time to pay a visit to Music Banter. Hopefully I will be able to write you a reply during the weekend after the day I return to Sweden - i.e. during the weekend following Friday the 14th of February.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 02-05-2014 08:22 AM
Alright, I await your reviews then.

And read my posts early in this thread. I was as skeptical as you about any decent new music out there until Surrel showed me a couple of Animal Collective videos. Then I started listening to some other stuff and found some pretty good bands, my "big three" of which I've been posting here.

neardeathexperience 02-15-2014 08:54 PM
If you look at all the bands that participated in the pop music of the 60s and mid 70s they dwarf pretty much everything that is out there today!

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-15-2014 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by neardeathexperience (Post 1416818)
If you look at all the bands that participated in the pop music of the 60s and mid 70s they dwarf pretty much everything that is out there today!
That's because people have had 40/50 years plus to familiarise themselves with those songs.
I could just as easy say the same thing about the songs I grew up with in the late 80s / 90s. Someone a lot younger than me will say the exact same thing about the songs they've grown up with in the past 10/15 years.

Surell 02-16-2014 02:07 AM
I already think 4 or 5 years ago was better than now

neardeathexperience 02-16-2014 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1416860)
That's because people have had 40/50 years plus to familiarise themselves with those songs.
I could just as easy say the same thing about the songs I grew up with in the late 80s / 90s. Someone a lot younger than me will say the exact same thing about the songs they've grown up with in the past 10/15 years.
I personally don't think so. It only took me a couple of days to familiarise myself with a new Beatles, or Rolling Stone's song. It did not take 40 years. I can't actually imagine anyone today remembering 90% of what is out there these days even a year after it's come out. :(
or the record there was some interesting music being made in the 80s and 90s still.


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