Ne-Yo - Great Songwriter

duotone · 12-21-2011, 02:34 AM

Excluding his own material after reading on Spotify I have just discovered these other tracks he has written, which over the years have all caught my ear without me knowing who was behind them.

Mario - Let me love you
Beyonce - Irreplaceable (my personal favourite)
Rihanna - Unfaithful & Take a bow
Jennifer Hudson - Spotlight

Definitely a big talent & over here in the UK I would definitely say underrated. I'm guessing he is huge in the States? I am very interested in hearing his Libra Scale album (not on Spotify unfortunately) , any thoughts?

Mario - Let Me Love You (Official Video) [Lyrics In Description Box] - YouTube

Beyoncé - Irreplaceable - YouTube

Rihanna - Unfaithful - YouTube

Rihanna - Take A Bow - YouTube

Jennifer Hudson - Spotlight - YouTube

Salami · 12-21-2011, 02:41 AM

Do you think that being a good songwriter means the ability to write catchy pop songs? One thing is to get someone hooked on the song, but surely there's the question of expression, too?

duotone · 12-21-2011, 02:49 AM

Not necessarily catchy songs, but good songs. I think they stand alone as being good tracks.

What do you mean by "expression"?

Salami · 12-21-2011, 02:52 AM

This for instance:

Rihanna - Take A Bow - YouTube

Appears to me as being less about expressing her feelings through her music as much as getting people's attention with something entertaining and catchy.

duotone · 12-21-2011, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mighty Salami

as getting people's attention with something entertaining and catchy.

Whats wrong with that?

Salami · 12-21-2011, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by duotone

Whats wrong with that?

Nothing, I was just wondering if that is your definition of "good songwriting".

If it is, then should music that isn't catchy, such as Swans or post-rock in general, be considered bad songwriting?

duotone · 12-21-2011, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mighty Salami

Nothing, I was just wondering if that is your definition of "good songwriting".

If it is, then should music that isn't catchy, such as Swans or post-rock in general, be considered bad songwriting?

Just put Swans on Youtube now, no that stuff is good also. Obviously its a different type of sound, but still good stuff.

Swans: Blind - YouTube

Salami · 12-21-2011, 03:36 AM

Well anyway, since I'm English, I have no idea how big Ne-Yo has got in the States. Although I get easily irritated by "Beautiful monster".

I'd pick Swans any day!

Ben Butler · 12-21-2011, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mighty Salami

Well anyway, since I'm English, I have no idea how big Ne-Yo has got in the States. Although I get easily irritated by "Beautiful monster".

I'd pick Swans any day!

I love his "Beautiful monster" song.

AmazingPurpleCat · 01-11-2012, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mighty Salami

Well anyway, since I'm English, I have no idea how big Ne-Yo has got in the States. Although I get easily irritated by "Beautiful monster".

I'd pick Swans any day!

When reading this bear in mind that he despises Swans

12-21-2011, 02:34 AM	#1 (permalink)
duotone Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: London Posts: 169	Ne-Yo - Great Songwriter Excluding his own material after reading on Spotify I have just discovered these other tracks he has written, which over the years have all caught my ear without me knowing who was behind them. Mario - Let me love you Beyonce - Irreplaceable (my personal favourite) Rihanna - Unfaithful & Take a bow Jennifer Hudson - Spotlight Definitely a big talent & over here in the UK I would definitely say underrated. I'm guessing he is huge in the States? I am very interested in hearing his Libra Scale album (not on Spotify unfortunately) , any thoughts? Mario - Let Me Love You (Official Video) [Lyrics In Description Box] - YouTube Beyoncé - Irreplaceable - YouTube Rihanna - Unfaithful - YouTube Rihanna - Take A Bow - YouTube Jennifer Hudson - Spotlight - YouTube

12-21-2011, 02:41 AM	#2 (permalink)
Salami Get in ma belly Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1,385	Do you think that being a good songwriter means the ability to write catchy pop songs? One thing is to get someone hooked on the song, but surely there's the question of expression, too?

12-21-2011, 02:49 AM	#3 (permalink)
duotone Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: London Posts: 169	Not necessarily catchy songs, but good songs. I think they stand alone as being good tracks. What do you mean by "expression"?

12-21-2011, 02:52 AM	#4 (permalink)
Salami Get in ma belly Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1,385	This for instance: Rihanna - Take A Bow - YouTube Appears to me as being less about expressing her feelings through her music as much as getting people's attention with something entertaining and catchy.

12-21-2011, 03:36 AM	#8 (permalink)
Salami Get in ma belly Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1,385	Well anyway, since I'm English, I have no idea how big Ne-Yo has got in the States. Although I get easily irritated by "Beautiful monster". I'd pick Swans any day!