STOP Right now! thank you very Much! Spice Girls Thread!!

[starrynight]

They sound nice in harmony so I think there is point in having 3 of them.

[Unknown Soldier]

Originally Posted by right-track

Why does there have to be 3 of them when it only takes one of them to sing the song, badly?

Because one horny schoolboy was guaranteed to fancy one of them, I know I did.

[Unknown Soldier]

Originally Posted by Necromancer

I didn't realize at the time the debate subject was "manufactured girl bands". Thanks for the explanation Soldier, I really do appreciate it! my friend.

Its always a pleasure

[Lord Dweedle]

Im glad im not the only one who likes this group, im gettin picked on 24/7 for listening to em lol

[starrynight]

People can listen to what they want I don't care. It's just when big claims are made for something as being historically important....

[Necromancer]

Originally Posted by right-track

this thread is an insult to musicbanter.

+2

[djchameleon]

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

You mean you've never experienced the joys of Vanilla?


I don't know how much truth there is in this but I hear this band only exist because one exec from one record company bet another that in the wake of the Spice Girls success he could get together any random bunch of skanks who couldn't sing a note, give them a really awful song and it would still be a hit.

It got to no 14 in the UK charts so I guess he had a point.

wow....I've heard of this one group Vanilla Ninjas which I thought maybe they were the same group as Vanilla but nope. Did that song specifically make it to no. 14? lol that's crazy.

I wonder how much that exec won in that bet.

Originally Posted by right-track

Because the vast majority of so called music lovers, not unlike the vast majority of people on earth...are complete idiots with no taste whatsoever!

You people are an insult to music.
And this thread is an insult to MusicBanter.

taste is subjective, people like to listen to whatever they like to listen to even if it doesn't hold up to your standards.

Not sure why it bothers you what they like to listen to, it's not like they are forcing you to listen to it.

Originally Posted by starrynight

People can listen to what they want I don't care. It's just when big claims are made for something as being historically important....

I know record sales aren't important to you unless they pertain to The Beatles but I would say that The Spice Girls setting a worldwide record for sales is historically important.

[Neapolitan]

Originally Posted by starrynight

Record sales don't always reflect actual achievement. Anyway the earliest girl group I know of was The Boswell Sisters back in the 30s. Then you have The Andrews Sisters. Then doo-wop and ones like The Chordettes. Then in the 60s The Supremes and The Ronettes, and others. The 70s had The Three Degrees among others. Then the 80s had Bananarama among others. The Spice Girls were far from the first girl group to sell records. Maybe they seemed fresh to some of the young audience in the late 90s, but not to most other people.

Record sales does show an actual achievement, the achievement of selling records; I think it's better said that record sales don't correlate to the quality and integrity of the music. There's no way to prove that mainstream chart-topping "Pop music" is much better than obscure underground music by claiming record sales or even comparing two Pop act and claiming the one that sells more is more artistic. Still they set a benchmark no other all female vocal group, or all female rock band passed. That isn't a testament to their musicality just their popularity.
Why I agree with DJ-C was based on they were relatively the first female vocal group as far as a female vocal group are concern that sold merchandise like t-shirts, lunch boxes, back packs, notebooks, dolls etc etc. I didn't say they were very first female vocal group - that would be ridiculous, it's obviously not true.

It was if they were fabricated to be a singing group/merchandising machine.

[starrynight]

Originally Posted by djchameleon

I know record sales aren't important to you unless they pertain to The Beatles but I would say that The Spice Girls setting a worldwide record for sales is historically important.

Well there's 2 things wrong with that.

First, I like quite a lot (not all) of what The Beatles did because I like the music, not because it sold well.

Second, as far as record sales The Beatles are in a different league to The Spice Girls anyway. So no doubt are others like ABBA.

[starrynight]

Originally Posted by Neapolitan

Record sales does show an actual achievement, the achievement of selling records; I think it's better said that record sales don't correlate to the quality and integrity of the music. There's no way to prove that mainstream chart-topping "Pop music" is much better than obscure underground music by claiming record sales or even comparing two Pop act and claiming the one that sells more is more artistic. Still they set a benchmark no other all female vocal group, or all female rock band passed. That isn't a testament to their musicality just their popularity.
Why I agree with DJ-C was based on they were relatively the first female vocal group as far as a female vocal group are concern that sold merchandise like t-shirts, lunch boxes, back packs, notebooks, dolls etc etc. I didn't say they were very first female vocal group - that would be ridiculous, it's obviously not true.

It was if they were fabricated to be a singing group/merchandising machine.

Exactly, merchandising, marketing. The whole scary, posh etc monickers they got for instance. But it's a myth that that is what pop music is just about, it isn't. Others have got by on music than simply on image. Not that image is restricted to pop of course, some rock acts have depended very heavily on image. And of course selling records is an achievement though how much of that is due to the group and how much to the person how thought up the concept and put them together and marketed them in a particular way?