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Old 07-13-2011, 06:26 AM   #91 (permalink)
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Paul is the real king of pop. Like it or not the Beatles infuenced every genre today. Sort of like Mozart's influence.
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Old 07-13-2011, 01:18 PM   #92 (permalink)
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i seem to think people just assumes Bowie is better because he's "cooler" than Paul
That was part of what I was thinking. Rock is as much about image as pop, in some ways maybe much more so. Bowie was seen to epitomise the glam scene and established himself as much because of his image as because of the music. There is plenty of good music in the 70s but most of them never had the image and fame Bowie had.

I don't think The Beatles were as much about image. That's shown in that they changed quite a bit through the 60s, they are not remembered specifically for certain costumes, makeup or a kind of attitude like Bowie is. He even made up names for himself like Ziggy Stardust and became them in concert.
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Old 07-13-2011, 05:10 PM   #93 (permalink)
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I don't think The Beatles were as much about image. That's shown in that they changed quite a bit through the 60s, they are not remembered specifically for certain costumes, makeup or a kind of attitude like Bowie is. He even made up names for himself like Ziggy Stardust and became them in concert.
that's so not true!

yes Bowie was a bit more flamboyant but The Beatles were just as much about image as he was. They are specifically remember for those matching bowl hair cuts they had
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that's so not true!

yes Bowie was a bit more flamboyant but The Beatles were just as much about image as he was. They are specifically remember for those matching bowl hair cuts they had
I`d hardly put the funny haircuts that the Beatles had, in the same type of image category that Bowie was projecting. Also the comparison is not great, as the Beatles look was quite some time before Bowie kicked in.
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I`d hardly put the funny haircuts that the Beatles had, in the same type of image category that Bowie was projecting. Also the comparison is not great, as the Beatles look was quite some time before Bowie kicked in.
My point is they still had an image with that haircut, an image that was even replicated by other bands.
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My point is they still had an image with that haircut, an image that was even replicated by other bands.
I see your point but there is still a big difference in the images being projected here. The Beatles image was seen as being trendy and generally accepted as being a popular fad. Whereas, Bowie`s image was decadent and and androgynous, and parents didn`t want their kids coming home looking like that
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I see your point but there is still a big difference in the images being projected here. The Beatles image was seen as being trendy and generally accepted as being a popular fad. Whereas, Bowie`s image was decadent and and androgynous, and parents didn`t want their kids coming home looking like that
that's why I used the word flamboyant to describe that whole part of what you said :P

IMO, Starrynight was saying The Beatles had no image whatsoever or that's what I got from what he was saying.
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IMO, Starrynight was saying The Beatles had no image whatsoever or that's what I got from what he was saying.
Well dreamynight got that part wrong.
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Except that I never said The Beatles had no image. Where did I actually say that? In your imagination.

Bowie intentionally set out to shock visually, his image was part of his whole act. The Beatles didn't really shock, they took their image from the time they were in. Their originality was more in the music as that is what they concentrated on.
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Except that I never said The Beatles had no image. Where did I actually say that? In your imagination.

Bowie intentionally set out to shock visually, his image was part of his whole act. The Beatles didn't really shock, they took their image from the time they were in. Their originality was more in the music as that is what they concentrated on.
Very true. If anything, the initial clean-cut image of the Beatles was intended to do the exact opposite of that of the image that David Bowie portrayed. Beatles were designed for mass appeal, Bowie was designed for counter culture.
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