Mrd00d

As far as genre-wise, I think these guys are alternative or indie. And as far as popularity wise ... well, they're radio worthy but unheard of on the radio.

Minus the Bear!

This is off their latest 2010 album, and my thoughts were:poppy but decent.
Give it a listen if you like:



I've come to expect a lot more instrumental prowess from them, esp. guitarist and drummer... like this for example:



But I think this is a perfect choice for you. I am/was in the same boat as you. But really, when I start to think about it... I do have pop music, sort of...

It might rather be called indie-pop, or alternative, or so on and so forth, but... yea




...like I think in the future, we may retrospectively call some of the RHCP's work pop, especially in the 2000s. By The Way, Zephyr Song, Wet Sand, Stadium Arcadium...

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I agree!

TockTockTock

Frank Sinatra is technically considered classic pop/vocal jazz. He's pretty decent. Scott Walker's not bad either, but he's art pop.

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This might just be me, but what would make people think there isn't any good pop out there to begin with? Common sense dictates that such a point of view is wrong to begin with.

Pop, AKA music designed to be relatively catchy (choruses, refrains, bridges, yaddayaddayadda) or easy on the ears, has been fused at one point or another with pretty much every genre known to man. Power pop, jazz-pop, pop metal, prog. pop, industrial, ambient, electronic, etc. If you can name it, then in all likelihood there's somebody out there doing it.

I guess what it comes down to is how interesting and/or catchy a person or band can make a song within the perceived constraints of commerciality, and even that is a rather subjective observation.

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Well, I think the biggest problem is what pop is. Pop at one point just meant what was popular. Whether it was classical, jazz, or rock it could pretty much be anything. However, in the 80s it seems like there was sort of a super secretive group or something, I don't know, that decided that pop was a particular sound.

When you really look into it the sound means nothing more than minimalist(in both structure, and instrumental melody) studio based rock n' roll with vocals as the central focus. Tons of music is this way. Some of it necessarily popular, or not. There's both good of it in popular, and non-popular contexts. Ironically, however, from my findings the vast majority of the quality "minimalist studio based rock n' roll" is not popular.

When you look at it meaning what's popular. Led Zeppelin are good pop as are Pink Floyd, Soundgarden, Van Halen, Judas Priest, etc. Things that are poppy in their own regard but not particularly considered pop. Even though, they really are.

Pop itself considered it's own genre always bothers me because it creates a sense that a lot of really poor, untested, music is shoved down our throats because it's the style that is supposed to be popular. IE. minimalist studio based rock n' roll. Which hurts because it makes people assume that all minimalist studio based rock n' roll acts of it's styling are somehow inferior.

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MoonlitSunshine

Silverchair's Young Modern Album is pretty damn poppy, but I enjoy(ed) it quite a lot.



The question here is one that has been stated before me in this thread: does something have to be popular in order to be Pop, or do you define simply something that sounds poppy as Pop?

It has to be said: 80's cheese pop: sooo good :P

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I reiterate Brian Eno:

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I have always loved OK Go, for some reason. I just think they get several extremely catchy songs on each of their releases.

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I like Brian Eno, but I've never considered him to be pop music. As for Minus the Bear, I've listened to the before but I didn't see anything I loved. They're decent, though.