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"The Beatles were multi-instrumentalists who played almost every instrument themselves?"
Ok they didn't play orchestral instruments on song like Yesterday, but The Beatles did more than play one instrument. John played guitar, harmonica and melodica, Paul played bass guitar piano and drums, George played electric guitar, sitar and classical guitar and even had a master class with Andrés Segovia, and Ringo besides playing drums played the plucky comic relief guy.
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Originally Posted by G.A. De Forest
Get a grip on some facts. John Lennon was still playing banjo chords well into their recording career.
Wes Montgomery before he started playing guitar at 20, played on a four course tenor guitar which btw so happens to be tuned like a tenor banjo. Roger McGuinn also played banjo before he played the electric 12 string Ric. They took what he knew about chord shapes and technique and applied it to guitar. When they did it, they were hailed as a geniuses.
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Originally Posted by G.A. De Forest
George Martin and Brian Epstein seriously considered replacing the Beatles as instrumentalists for their recordings at the time Beatle George and Paul were knifing Pete Best in the back.
Oh yeah, well look at Yes, what the Beatles did pales in comparison. And besides there's no rule in Rock that says at some point in its band history they must stick to that one line-up. Even the Beach Boys had line-up changes.
John, Paul and George were mates from early on even before they had a Rock band or needed a drummer. Pete came in later on, and there were instances where Paul played drums. Stu was part of the group too, he opt out to pursue art. Martin might had his doubts about the whole band in the beginning but that was because it would a way to insure a hit, I don't that thought lasted long. And anyway the Beach Boys actually did what Martin and Epstein only thaought about doing. They admit they could had handled it better, but it was done after's George Martin's suggestion who wanted a better than Best. They met up with Ringo playing the circuit and were chums with him more so than Pete.
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Originally Posted by G.A. De Forest
Right till the end of the Sixties, GEORGE MARTIN composed whole missing passages of songs, made the song 'A Day in the Life' out of two messes of songs by John & Paul; made their first big hit 'Please Please Me' -- all the Beatles had to do was follow the template.
That only proves one thing: George Martin - the fifth Beatle.
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Originally Posted by G.A. De Forest
George Harrison almost mastered sitar. But just compare drummer for drummer: Dennis Wilson was the multi-instrumentalist and brilliant composer; Ringo almost talentless in every other department, as he shows trying to sing and write songs to this day.
Give the man a break he had a tough choldhood, he suffered from pleurisy, peritonitis, and tonsilitis as a child. Ringo isn't a complete failure that didn't leave his mark on society as you might want people to think. When The Beatles appeared on the Ed Sullivan Show, h sold more drums then anyone at the time. They was such an increase in drum sales and Zildjian cymbols were on back order for a year at that time.
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Originally Posted by G.A. De Forest
Yes, the moptops were great for merchandising Beatle toys, just like Capitol had done with Bozo the Clown before them.
I don't think everyone knows who Bozo the Clown is.
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Originally Posted by G.A. De Forest
Brian Wilson used some session musicians to fill in while the group was out touring -- something the Beatles did once every summer, I think, and only the lucrative markets around the world: stuff their home town, Liverpool. Even London -- that was just a place they puttered around most of the year, rubbing shoulders with other fashion plates and politicians.
The other band members weren't too happy at the time to be relegated to just singingwhile the studio played for the recordings, they want to play as well. And there weren't "some session musicians" some of those musicians were famous in their own right. Like Hal Blaine for instance he played for everyone from the Mumus and the Papas, the Monkeys, 5th Dimension, Simon and Golfuncle and Neil Diamond.
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Originally Posted by G.A. De Forest
Then they would go in to the studio with fragments of songs roughed out -- none could write music let alone arrange it -- for Martin to fix up. They lived cosseting themselves in palatial estates, adopted by the upper crust as pets and media favourites.
John Lennon never felt that way, he felt like some in English high society "crust" (as you put it) didn't like him because he was a Northerner.
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