The Beatles vs The Beach Boys

~~telepicker~~ · 07-21-2010, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheElectricSlug

Brian and Carl Wilson are the best harmony group of all-time. There is no question about it. Here Today is a perfect example of harmonies being introduced with a timpani and such a nice, slow plodding beat. The song has an almost circus like break before the last chorus and demonstrates how far fetched some of Brian’s ideas were. "Wouldn’t It Be Nice" could be the most uplifting song ever written, and not coincidentally it has backing vocals filled with ascending pitches and warmness. The “Run Run weooooooo” in the middle eight may be the moment that fully encapsulates this young love scenario. In a nutshell, the Beach Boys are so much better than the Beatles is almost scary how few people actually realize it.

Yeah, vocally, the Beach Boys were more complex...

But lyrically and musically, the Beatles blew the BBs away like a fart in the wind.

The Beach Boys could barely play their instruments = fact.

almauro · 07-22-2010, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by telepicker

The Beach Boys could barely play their instruments = fact.

As usual, you don't know what your talking about. The Beach Boys played all their instruments quite well on all their albums up until 1964, when Brian Wilson suffered from his first bout of mental exhaustion. From 63-64, the band released 7 albums, which was unprecedented, and Wilson being the prime songwriter was simply worn down. Capital records and the rest of the band members agreed to let Brian Wilson stay in the studio to write and record tracks with session musicians, while the rest of the Beach Boys toured, with Bruce Johnson as his replacement. The strategy was to have the songs completed and ready for the rest of the Beach Boys to lay their vocal tracks, so they could quickly complete and release the record, hit the road and start touring, keeping the hit machine going. Unlike your statement, the Beach Boys could indeed play their instruments, Carl was just has good has George, Dennis could beat the crap out of Ringo, and Brian was one of the greatest musicians that ever existed on this planet.

~~telepicker~~ · 07-22-2010, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by almauro

As usual, you don't know what your talking about. The Beach Boys played all their instruments quite well on all their albums up until 1964, when Brian Wilson suffered from his first bout of mental exhaustion. From 63-64, the band released 7 albums, which was unprecedented, and Wilson being the prime songwriter was simply worn down. Capital records and the rest of the band members agreed to let Brian Wilson stay in the studio to write and record tracks with session musicians, while the rest of the Beach Boys toured, with Bruce Johnson as his replacement. The strategy was to have the songs completed and ready for the rest of the Beach Boys to lay their vocal tracks, so they could quickly complete and release the record, hit the road and start touring, keeping the hit machine going. Unlike your statement, the Beach Boys could indeed play their instruments, Carl was just has good has George, Dennis could beat the crap out of Ringo, and Brian was one of the greatest musicians that ever existed on this planet.

you've lost your ever-loving mind if you think Carl and Dennis even slightly compare to George and Ringo.

Bit of advice; when the crackpipe gets hot...set the thing down for awhile...

Cause that last hit must been a doozy.

almauro · 07-22-2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by telepicker

you've lost your ever-loving mind if you think Carl and Dennis even slightly compare to George and Ringo.

Bit of advice; when the crackpipe gets hot...set the thing down for awhile...

Cause that last hit must been a doozy.

With a simple-minded brain condition as yourselves, I think it's in your best interest to lay-off the keystrokes, and try to save as many brain cells as possible because you obviously don't have too many to spare.

Unknown Soldier · 07-22-2010, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by almauro

and try to save as many brain cells as possible because you obviously don't have too many to spare.

I think he`s used his last brain cell on this site.

slimfire · 07-22-2010, 03:40 PM

The Beatles! The Beach Boys were good but really only in the summer months at the boardwalk

Screen13 · 07-22-2010, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by almauro

Dennis could beat the crap out of Ringo, and Brian was one of the greatest musicians that ever existed on this planet.

I know you're referring to Drumming, which they are seriously solid and sharp equals in my book especially judging from Live recordings '63-'65 (Saving The Beatles' tiredness from touring in '66), but getting to Songwriting, I will say that "Be With Me" or "All I Want to Do" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Octopus' Garden" and Pacific Ocean Blue (which was songs by Dennis usually with Gregg Jacobson and a few others) > Almost every Ringo solo album that's not called Ringo (Which he had plenty of help from his friends) or a greatest hits. On the Solo Songwriting level, Dennis does Beat the Beatle, but mainly by default - Ringo just does not appear to have been the "Songwriter" type that Dennis occasionally turned into. Dennis' occasional contributions were much-needed Post-Brian.

No argument on Brian.

Screen13 · 07-22-2010, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by telepicker

Elmore James
Howlin' Wolf
Muddy Waters
Jimmie Rodgers
Lefty Friszell
Conway Twitty
Miles Davis
Coltrane
Rashaan Roland Kirk
Elvis
Little Richard
Roy Orbison
ANYTHING on Sun Records in the 50's

oh yeah...LOTS of good music in the 50's.

Not to mention Sax-heavy Las Vegas Grind-style stripper music! Now that's under-rated. You had to have the Dexterity (and possibly Dexys) to keep 'em moving. Forget "The Stripper," The Grind is where it was really at.

I know, guilty for going off-topic a bit, but there you are.

Screen13 · 07-22-2010, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by telepicker

you've lost your ever-loving mind if you think Carl and Dennis even slightly compare to George and Ringo.

I'll agree with the George >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carl bit, though.

almauro · 07-22-2010, 06:29 PM

^I was trying to tweek that TPicker for that ridiculus comment that the Beach Boys couldn't play. I will conceed that George was a better guitarist than Carl.

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