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07-08-2013, 06:14 PM | #681 (permalink) | ||
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07-08-2013, 07:36 PM | #683 (permalink) | |
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Hehe, well i don't think it was official or anything, he was kinda close to Dennis, but I think it was kind of out of his hands, or he felt threatened. He was a co writer on "Never Learn Not to Love" though, that's for sure.
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07-09-2013, 01:08 AM | #684 (permalink) | |
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In fact, my father is visiting me the past few days and I played Your Summer Dream and Warmth of the Sun for both of them today, and neither of them had heard either song before, and they too were very impressed. Keep in mind these are folks in their 60's and 80's!
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Stop and find a pretty shell for her Beach Boys vs Beatles comparisons begin here Last edited by DriveYourCarDownToTheSea; 07-09-2013 at 01:14 AM. |
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07-09-2013, 01:47 AM | #685 (permalink) | |
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07-09-2013, 10:33 AM | #686 (permalink) |
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I looked at your comparable songs, and while I agree with most of it, some I do disagree with, for favor with the Beatles usually. And while those are a few songs, there's far too many songs you're missing. You miss the incredible penmanship of George Harrison entirely. Also, the depth in the Beatles styles is far more respectable to that of the Beach Boys. Juts look at the White Album. BAck in the USSR is Beach Boys. Solid Ballad Dear Prudence, pop fun Ob-La-Di Ob-La-Da. Bungalow Bill. While My Guitar Gently Weeeps. Happiness Si A Warm Gun. Piggies. I Will. Rocky Raccoon. Yer Blues. Helter Skelter. Good Night. The range is incredible. And every song is too. The Beatles oeuvre has more, great songs than the Beach Boys but the Beach Boys have MANY more songs. The Beatles never put out a bad album. Obviously, the Beach Boys had. But even in just looking late 60s, early 70s. From Help! to Let It Be, and from Today! to Surf's Up. Beatles were better. With The Beatles and A Hard Day's Night were both excellent albums as well. I mean come on guys. It's the BEATLES. The Beach were and always will be an amazing band. Even to some more favorable to listen to. Obviously it's an unfair matchup, but it was 3 geniuses versus 1, how could he possibly win?
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07-10-2013, 02:56 AM | #687 (permalink) | |
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The band probably shows the least presence on Pet Sounds, but saying they weren't there at all is a myth to a certain extent. On "That's Not Me", Dennis is on drums, Carl on 12-string, Brian on organ and Al on tambourine. Add a few other instrumental credits, Mike's lyrics to "I'm Waiting for the Day" and other contributions here and there, Al's arrangement to "Sloop John B", that awesome vocal blend etc. etc. you begin to realise that while undoubtedly still being a Brian dominated product, the other Beach Boys certainly left their mark on the album. What's more, I'm confident the band would've been capable of recording those tracks had they been given the opportunity. After all, they played on the aforementioned "That's Not Me", "When I Grow Up (To Be a Man)" and a host of other complex songs. Even Mike showed us he was halfway decent at sax on this cover of "What'd I Say?": Most of the time, the guys aren't on the tracks because Brian was recording while the rest of the guys were touring or because he was obsessed with aping Spector's session musicians, studios etc. For me, it all adds to the idiosyncrasy of the band's mythos. |
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07-11-2013, 08:09 AM | #689 (permalink) |
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I think Pet Sounds is vastly overrated. "Wouldn't It Be Nice," "God Only Knows," "Caroline No," and "Sloop John B" are all great songs but the rest of the albums songs are mediocre. When you compare Pet Sounds to what other musicians were doing in 1966, it sounds outdated and behind the times. The Beach Boys seemed completely oblivious to revolution in pop music that's happening all around them in 1966. Brian Wilson is still stuck in the Brill Building songwriter mode of the early Sixties. The Beach Boys were always more of a singles band than a "concept album" band.
Pet Sounds wasn't even the best album of 1966... I've compiled a list of 25 albums released the same year as Pet Sounds that are arguably better albums than Pet Sounds. Blonde on Blonde- Bob Dylan Fifth Dimension- The Byrds Freak Out- Frank Zappa & the Mothers of Invention Revolver- The Beatles Roger the Engineer (aka Over Under Sideways, Down in USA)- The Yardbirds Aftermath- The Rolling Stones Parsley Sage Rosemary & Thyme- Simon & Garfunkel Fresh Cream- Cream Sunshine Superman- Donovan A Quick One (aka Happy Jack in the USA)- The Who Love- Love Boom- the Sonics East-West- The Paul Butterfield Blues Band The Psychedelic Sounds of the 13th Floor Elevators- 13th Floor Elevators The Blues Breakers with Eric Clapton- John Mayall Web of Sound- The Seeds If You Can Believe Your Eyes and Ears- Mamas & Papas Animalism- The Animals Buffalo Springfield- Buffalo Springfield Hums of the Lovin' Spoonful- Lovin' Spoonful Tim Buckley- Tim Buckley Face To Face- The Kinks The Young Rascals- The Young Rascals The Fugs' Second Album- The Fugs And I'm not even counting all the great soul music albums that were released in 1966.
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07-12-2013, 11:01 AM | #690 (permalink) |
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The Beach Boys fill a niche very well. They crafted beautiful and pleasant summery songs that will never be forgotten, but they did not successfully stray far from their core competency, which is completely fine and respectable: do one thing with excellence. However, the Beatles effectively created and attacked an unbelievable spectrum of music (especially for their time). The Beach Boys are like the month of July, but the fab four are the whole calendar!
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