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Onei 07-02-2010 05:45 AM

The Beatles hands down! Quite simply they set the standard for versatility and produced albums that were innovative and off the wall. The Beach Boys legacy just doesn't live up to the Beatles one.

telepicker 07-03-2010 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by VocalsBass (Post 893217)
Its interesting the way he introduced 'doubletracking' into production at that certain time in 1963

Ever hear of a dude named Les Paul?

He was double-tracking when Brian Wilson was singing with that church choir you mentioned.

How did you dream up that he "introduced" it into production?

telepicker 07-03-2010 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lencybrostan (Post 893337)
They are amazing and sweet band but emotionally they are damaged people.

Yeah...

Lennon was as damaged as they come.


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Originally Posted by lencybrostan (Post 893337)
What Beatless lacking is immaturity and backwards longing for normality.

Huh?

Necromancer 07-03-2010 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by telepicker (Post 893965)
Ever hear of a dude named Les Paul?

He was double-tracking when Brian Wilson was singing with that church choir you mentioned.

How did you dream up that he "introduced" it into production?

Why do you presume, (I am) suggesting Wilson was the first person to ever introduce doubletracking?
"Wilson made the production decision in 63 to use doubletracking on the groups vocals" is the only statement I made, since the subject was Brian Wilson & The Beach Boys, and not Les Paul. :)
You should add a small review of your own with some substance to the thread concerning one or both of the bands mentioned, instead of twisting & turning other peoples words/posts, in order to fit your own personal opinion.

streetwaves 07-03-2010 07:26 PM

Pet Sounds is better than any Beatles album in my opinion (although it may be very close with Revolver) - and that's coming from someone who used to consider them his favorite band by far... for about 3-4 years straight. Of course, The Beatles have more good material than The Beach Boys do, but I think SMiLE would have definitely have been better than Sgt. Pepper had it been finished.

TheCunningStunt 07-03-2010 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by streetwaves (Post 894077)
I would say Pet Sounds is better than any Beatles album, but the Beatles of course had a larger amount of good material.

Pet Sounds doesn't even touch Help in my opinion. Help is a great pop record, and it really doesn't touch Revolver, Abbey Road or Rubber Soul.

streetwaves 07-03-2010 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 894078)
Pet Sounds doesn't even touch Help in my opinion. Help is a great pop record, and it really doesn't touch Revolver, Abbey Road or Rubber Soul.

Haha, I can't even begin to relate to that.

TheCunningStunt 07-03-2010 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by streetwaves (Post 894089)
Haha, I can't even begin to relate to that.

Help and Pet Sounds are both Pop records, The Beatles are better.. Simple really.

streetwaves 07-03-2010 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 894094)
Help and Pet Sounds are both Pop records, The Beatles are better.. Simple really.

Pet Sounds is on a completely different level than Help. Help is nothing more than a pop record, you're right. Pet Sounds, though, is full of impeccable arrangements and it's certainly more emotionally powerful.

TheCunningStunt 07-03-2010 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by streetwaves (Post 894098)
Pet Sounds is on a completely different level than Help. Help is nothing more than a pop record, you're right. Pet Sounds, though, is full of impeccable arrangements and it's certainly more emotionally powerful.

I think Help is extremely underrated. I find the transition from Help, through to Rubber Soul through to Revolver really interesting. The way they all developed, I think The Beatles owe Help a lot. So much of their songwriting on that record was great, even though it was very true to its bubble-gum roots, it started to get better. I think Help! really is the start of The Beatles and I'd have it over Pet Sounds any day. Even though Pet Sounds has more of a complex Psychedelic sound to it, I think Help! song for song is a great Pop record.


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