King of Pop
 

Theres alot of bands that I don't think are bad pop bands, and frankly I'd rather listen to them than MIcheal Jackson. (i bring him up because he's the king of pop) but list any of the bands you think deserve a crack at "best pop act"

In my opinion, I think The Bare Naked Ladies write some really good pop tunes and don't have the same 3 topics that the rest of the pop songregation has (paparazzi; leave me alone, Im normal, and something along the lines of sex, or any slight variation on these).

Anyway...your turn.

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Green Day!

New Order

maroon 5 are an ok pop band i suppose, i like 2 songs anyway.

I would say Blink-182 because they were one of the first bands that I got into, and grew up listening to. I hate their new **** though...

Blink 182 definetly, bowling for soup too they're fun.

They do write some pop jams. I think it takes a certain amount of balls to be a pop band like they are and crap on MTV in the song, because you've essentially lost air play because of it and their goes any semblance of a base market. So good for them.

Hey i'm new to music banter just been looking through some of the threads and i just have to say............Millybig u make me chuckle lol

Anywho, with regards to this topic i'm undecided on a group but for a single artist i guess i would say Stevie Wonder shades it for me, if that counts('I Just Called To Say I Love You' aside) I know it's a lil' old but hey.........send me some recommendations and i'll update my music collection propmtly ;)

But why ever not? Jacko has had some quality choons in his day. He is without doubt the definitive King Of Pop.

I recommend Jacko's version of the classic Beatles song 'Come Together', it's been covered by other artists, but I think you will agree his version is by far the most experimental and different from the original :)

The Jackson 5 were great. Michael Jackson's Off The Wall album is f**king brilliant. Thriller is very good. Everything else is one man's descent into pedophilia and plastic surgery disasters. (Sorry Jello)

Oh dear how wrong you are :P I agree with the beginning part of your comments but i believe the rest are what have gone into TRUE descent. Personally 'BAD' is my favourite album, with fantastic choons such as 'Dirty Diana', 'Speed Demon', 'Another Part Of Me' and 'Smooth Criminal' (which is woefully overlooked due to Alien Ant Farms rendition!). Then there is 'Dangerous' (both albums selling HUGE amounts - I think there was a point were BAD was the 2nd biggest sellin album of all time). It is very difficult to extract the crazy persona Jackson has become from his genius music. I believe he was doing quite well even with his HIStory era but after that even I have to agree things went a bit t!ts up for him.

Its hard to tell by your post exactly where you disagree with me. I could probably care less about what point in Jackson's career/life he began to lose his marbles/pigmentation, but I think a comparison of Bad and Off the Wall is bleak at best. Off the wall was released in 1979 (pre-MTV) and is a viable musical masterpiece through and through, not just a collection of catchy overplayed pop ditties, which is precisely what the Bad album is....BAD !!!! Notwithstanding The Jackson 5, Off the Wall and Thriller are the foundation of which Michael Jackson's reputation as a solo artist stand on, they're also the reason why at any point in his career he has ever remotely deserved the tile "King of Pop" I dug Smooth Criminal, I'll give you that much, and I thought AAF's cover of it was good because it was creative and musically tight, but still a novelty.

Well let me clarify. To wave a hand at everything Jackson has done after 'Thriller' is a tad naive and unfair. That's all I was trying to get across. People often criticize everything that came after Thriller but I can't relate. I feel he's had quite a consistant career of releasing 'good pop music' throughout the 90's aswell as the 80's and 70's... you can slag BAD off with your lame puns ;) but have you ever seen the BAD tour live? No? Well let me tell you, it's unreal. The best damn tour he ever did. Yes some of the songs are slightly over zelous and cliched but nevertheless they stand their ground as great pop choons of the 80's.

Well, I can't disagree with anything you just said, even though I'm not a big fan of post Thriller MJ, yer' right.

I think you need to remember that these are just your opinions and the fact remains that Bad and Dangerous both sold huge amounts (Bad selling more than Dangerous) and just because you might not like them doesn't mean they are no good. Dangerous happens to be my favourite album, although I listened to HIStory yesterday and there are some TUNES on that too. You have to remember that Michael's music moved with the times and so his sound was bound to grow and change over the years to keep up with peoples changing tastes. Although Invincible isn't, in my opinion, better than his older albums, there are still some fab songs on there.

Hurrah to that! ;)

I thought Invincible was utterly DREADFUL when it was released, but it has grown on me a great deal since then. Dangerous is a quality and over looked album I find. 'Give In To Me' the duet with Slash being my favourite MJ song to date.

My favourite songs are Smooth criminal, Man in the Mirror and You Are Not Alone. But as a whole, I love the Dangerous album. 'Who Is It' is another tune, and who can forget 'Black or White'?!

Invincible is definitely a grower - Butterflies and Break of Dawn are both stunning songs, and I love 'Don't Walk Away', 'Whatever Happens' and of course 'You Rock My World'...actually there are a LOT of good songs on the album!!

I think you`ll find that most people who think Off The Wall is his best album (me included) think that because that album was the success it was purely down to the music. Not expensive videos , not whoring yourself out to pepsi , not with some crappy film , no stupid headline grabbing publicity stunts ... just great music , which in my opinion he never topped.

There's nothing wrong in whoring it out to 'pepsi' or anyone else for that matter ;)

I realise a number of people around here are 'anti-mainstream' naturally, but just because something or someone becomes hugely successfull it shouldn't detract from the high standard it derives from in this case Jacksons singles after Off The Wall. I try and look past the hype, afterall a choon is a choon even if Britney Spears is shaking her tic tacs to it!

Well said Jaz. Who cares what the artist is doing - making movies/filming commercials/making expensive music vids - a good song is a good song regardless of everything else!! At the end of the day it's just about people's opinions as to what they think is good or not. But in this day and age, if you like someone that is only making music, you'll have a hard time finding anything to listen to! These days it's all about the videos and image of the artist too. And, yeah some say that it should only be about the song, but hey, if it makes it more enjoyable who cares? You don't have to buy the product that is being endorsed, or watch the music video, just listen to the song/buy the album only!

id go with green day probably.

It`s not a case of being anti mainstream at all. To me Off The Wall shows his roots & his influences. R&B , Soul , Motown of which i`d rather listen to than a load of soulless 80s pop rock or cheesy ballads, which to me is what most of his late 80s early 90s material is.

I just can't relate to how anyone could dismiss classics such as 'Man in the Mirror' and 'Dirty Diana' as 'soulless 80's pop rock' :confused:

I just have a hatred of big 80s rock ballads , Dirty Diana was one of biggest of them.

Man in the mirror wasn`t too bad though , i`m not saying he turned totally crap (That happened in the mid 90s ;)) I`m just saying I don`t like it as much.

Oh c'mon I'm sure your feet where tapping to a few of the 90's beats. I could just imagine you bopping away to 'Heal The World'. Bless ;)

No but I was laughing with Jarvis C0cker when he shook his ass during Earth Song ;)

Oh you're so easily amused.

yep