Dirty

I think most of her songs sound pretty much the same. She can't sing at all, no lyrics, basically no talent whatsoever. Basically just talking over a party beat. She even looks retarded. I'll still throw on Tik Tok sometimes at a party just go get the girls jumpin, but damn Ke$ha is so talentless

TheBig3

Who's your favorite artist?

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Dirty

Nas.

For pop music though I'd go with Katy Perry.

TheBig3

How well does Nas sing?

If you went to a Ke$ha album looking for a Sinead O'Connor record, thats your fault. But to address your slander...

Ke$ha's operating on a cultural movement, she's not trying to be sung 100 years from now around a camp fire. She's not aiming for the Great American Songbook. What you should get is a captured moment in time. Few artists sum up the now like she does. Maybe thats not for you, and thats fine, but you can't blame her for not being Ani DeFranco.

We all look for something in music, maybe yours is longevity but you barked up the wrong tree here. I don't know how these same attacks aren't levied against techno artist, or how Nas is hoping to stand the test of time with lyrics. Is the state of the ghetto in 1994 relevant 16 years on?

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Nas doesn't sing, he's a rapper. And the album he made in 1994 is pretty widely regarded as the best rap album ever so....

I know what Kesha is trying to do. I just don't think she is talented whatsoever. Like I said, she can't sing or write good lyrics... All she can really do is talk over a party beat and have a dirty girl image that looks like she threw her outfits together with a $10 budget trip to Walmart. She just has no talent at all, just some nice beats thrown behind her crappy talk-rap or whatever you wanna call her vocals

TheBig3

I'll try this once more...

I don't know whether she can sing or not. My point is, she's not trying to be American Idol. Maybe where you come from everyone believes polished performances are the best kind, and we should all strive for that. I don't.

If she sang those songs they would suck. Seeing as they don't suck currently, I don't think we should fault her for achieving the height of the piece. Do you think she'd be better if she dressed well? If she used real instruments?

Of course she wouldn't. What you're trying to do to Ke$ha is equivalent to admonishing Picasso for the brush he used. The art is achieved in certain ways, some better than others. She made a decision to do what she does and quite frankly I think it was the correct one.

And I'm aware Nas is a rapper, that was my point. And Illmatic sucks.

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Dirty

Had a good laugh at the bolded part. But I respect your opinion, even though it differs from mostly everyone who listens to a lot of hip hop.

You can stop acting like I'm not 'getting it' though. I understand what you are saying. She isn't trying to be the world's greatest singer. And she has certainly succeeded in that aspect. I understand she is making music that's appealing in this pop culture... I just don't respect her talent. Well, lack thereof. Nothing she does impresses me. Just crappy talking over a party beat with a lethal dosage of autotune and a dirty party girl image. She's selling albums, good for her. But she just doesn't have any real skill. I think pop stars like Rhianna and Katy Perry are a million times more talented and I respect their music much more.

lieasleep

They are all pretty talentless. I have a friend who had an internship at electric ladyland. Rihanna and kanye came in to cut some track. She started her song. She was off key, missing notes, not awful but nothing special. They stopped her mid track and said "sorry. forgot to turn the auto-tune on." turned it on and off they went again.

I always have arguments with my friends because I dis-like beyonce. "She has an AMAZING voice," they always tell me and I always say "yeah, she does, but I haven't heard her sing a song that I liked, apart from maybe a cover or two and her songs in dreamgirls.

Pop divas always get judged by their voices and not their music for some stupid freaking reason. Good voices, even phenomenal voices, are not that hard to come by. We don't see them that often because they need to be part of either a very attractive package (beyonce) or a very ugly one (susan boyle). It's bull if you ask me.

Rihanna and ke$ha make music that I like but would not call good music. Katy perry makes music, I guess. There is so much bull in the politics of popular music today anyways that it is pointless to argue. There is no "good" only "who has the most money?"



What's wrong with that? Who ever said that she was "good" or "talented"? I hit bars and clubs a lot and love the ke$ha singles when they come on, don't they need to make music for that scene? Did she try to write "good" lyrics? and what are "good" lyrics? I think the lyrics to tik tok are great, the song is not good but I love it. I think people need to stop getting so pissed about the artists and start getting angry at people. But people haven't changed. Even oscar wilde in an essay titled "The soul of man (under socialism)" says that "the arts that have escaped best are the arts in which the public take no interest" And later "Any attempt to extend the subject-matter of art is extremely distasteful to the public; and yet the vitality and progress of art depend in a large measure on the continual extension of subject matter... Art is Individualism, and Individualism is a disturbing and disintegrating force." My point is, don't be pissed at the ****ty art. It is pointless, be pissed at the moronic masses that allow such art to be.

"The public has always , and in every age, been badly brought up. They are continually asking Art to be popular, to please their want of taste, to flatter their absurd vanity, to tell them what they have been told before, to show them what they ought to be tired of seeing, to amuse them when they feel heavy after eating too much, and to distract their thoughts when they are wearied of their own stupidity. Now Art should never try to be popular. The public should try to make itself artistic."

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I'll remember that.

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