TumorAttitude

lol I liked Ke$ha when she was just Kesha u guize

Freebase Dali

I don't even know who Ke$ha is.

I have a serious question that I hope someone can answer seriously...
Firstly, I don't listen to standard radio stations what with the advent of finding and obtaining music online when I became able to do so, which was a long while back. I also don't have cable television. I get my television shows on demand online.
My question is: Is that the reason why I don't know of all these pop artists, and the reason why I have never even heard a Justin Bieber song to even be annoyed by him, much less know who he is or what he sounds like?
I'm pretty much in the dark regarding all this kind of stuff, but I hear people ranting and raving about how much they hate certain pop stars and I somehow can't help but think it's self-inflicted.

Is there something I'm missing?

TheBig3

What?

The people who bitch about pop stars are emotionally damaged and intellectually stunted. Don't waste your time.

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Urban Hat€monger ?

Pet Sounds, regardless of my own opinion of it is considered in general to be pop masterpiece.
You said that people should hear an album by an artist before they decide their opinion of that artist. So if someone were to think that the songs that have already been released as singles (which are basically used as advertisements for an album) are total trash why on earth would you want to listen to the rest of it.
Hence my comment to you that it would need to be something pretty special (e.g. something as highly regarded as the album I mentioned) to make me want to listen to the rest of it.
If not, then why bother?

Like I said, why should anyone bother?
There are millions of bands & artists out they all bidding for my attention.
Why should she get any special attention just because she has a record contract?
If she's not releasing her best songs then someone at the record company needs firing. It's their job to sell the artist to me, not the other way around.
You pretty much said yourself it's throwaway pop, there's tons of that kind of stuff around on TV & Radio & in the media. What's wrong with wanting to listen to something of more substance in the privacy of your own record collection?
I don't have the resources or the time to listen to every single album around. So why shouldn't I disregard something I've only heard bad things about and which I know isn't likely to appeal to me?
I would say everybody on this forum I've encountered does do that. You've been here all of 5 minutes. I'd be interested to know how you've suddenly become an expert on everybody's taste in music here in that short space of time. I've been here around 5 years and I wouldn't pretend to know all of that.

They were

Personally I'd take more notice of someone who went out & discovered music for themselves through checking out albums & going to live shows much more than I would than someone who stays at home and chooses to be force fed whatever some radio station wants to play to attract the most advertising revenue. If that to say everything on the radio is trash? No it isn't, but at the end of day a radio stations job is to make money, not expand my musical palette. and that's why a lot of people are turned off by radio. Nothing to do with confidence issues at all. If anything you're the one who seems threatened by them.

Bands run out of ideas, bands are forced to compromise to maximise sales. People get tired of hearing the same songs over & over again.
There's lots of reasons why bands lose fans when they become more popular, It happens. I don't see why you're so worried about why other people like or dislike artists.

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Consolator

It really depends on your music taste. I'm a big fan of dance music as well as electronic music, so I can tolerate most of what the radio plays. Beiber does poppy stuff, I gave his album a listen and Baby was the only song I liked. I loathed Ke$ha and Lady Gaga when I heard their first singles. Ke$ha grew on me after Your Love Is My Drug, and I realized that Gaga isn't a talentless whore aftering looking up her live acoustic performances (well, she is a whore, but a supremely talented whore, I shouldn't be one to judge.) And I fell head over heels in love with Gaga's second album, which is a mix of industrial dance music and pop music that isn't so lyrically shallow like her first album.

I listen to the mainstream pop radios on my lengthy commute to University everyday, though if my car had a CD player, I'd probably never listen to the radio. The lame commercials annoy me much more than the actual music. I generally check out radio artist's CD's when they're released, just to make sure I'm not missing some random gem of a song.

Edit, response to the previous post: Did you not read the previous page at all? You're right, I have not been here for long, but you have to understand from the point of a newcomer, the comments on the previous page were (at the very least) giving off the impression that you all were bitter elitist peeps who were anti-mainstream. "I've evolved past the radio and proud to say that I don't listen to it." What kind of crap is that? That is the EXACT same thing that the snooty little hipsters I knew would say, thinking they're the absolute **** because they're listening to some band that no one knows, and aren't "conforming" to the radio. If that's what gives you an ego boost, fine.

I have absolutely no problem with someone wanting to listen to music with more substance than pop music. I thought I pointed that out in one of my last posts. In fact, it disappoints me that a lot of pop music today revolves around partying/sex/alcohol/whatever. I could give you a long list of the things that I wish were different about pop music. That isn't what this is about though. This is about people generalizing and making blatant assumptions about something they haven't heard. I loathe most food, but am willing to try everything that's handed to me once. I guess it comes down to nothing more than opposing viewpoints. I may not like a lot of pop songs I hear, but there are always a few that I end up really liking. To me, it's worth the time going through and finding my favorites. To you, it may not be, and that's fine -- it's the **** attitude towards popular things I don't like.

Freebase Dali

I may be misinterpreting your reply, but what I meant was that I'm genuinely at a loss as to how someone can be annoyed by music they aren't being forced to listen to.
Although I hear from a lot of people "Justin Bieber this, that and the other.. can't stand / hate / annoys me", personally he doesn't annoy me at all because I just don't listen to him. I'm sure, given the familiarity with my own tastes and even an ounce of reasoning based on that, I wouldn't like his music if I listened to it.. but to me, he isn't a factor in my life at all.
Same goes for Ke$ha and Lady Gaga and all the rest.

There was a time before I had a CD player in my car(s) that the radio was the only option, but I got more out of listening to talk radio than what was on the music stations, honestly. Now, I just load up a thumb drive full of tunes and plug that into my car's audio deck and listen to what I like.

It just somehow feels like there isn't any logic behind not liking a certain music and having to complain about it more than once.

Consolator

I've been looking for an adapter to buy for my car so I can hook up my ipod and listen while driving. Not completely sure what I need, been putting it off for a while..

A friend of mine really likes a politics talk show station thing that we have here. I would listen to that, but politics frustrates me, and I'd rather not constantly be in a crappy mood every time I drive to and from Uni. However, this is getting waaaay off topic.

Oh, and sorry about the mix-up with your other post. :x You can ignore what I said then.

Insane Guest

@ Consolator, why the **** do you care what people think about pop music, this rant about "people hating on pop music" has happened way to many times. Chill.

Consolator

I wanted to be done with this on the previous page, but a bunch of people replied and felt the need to add again. No one is forcing you to read this thread, you know. And since you don't like Ke$ha, and have already stated that you don't like her, makes me wonder why you bother replying to me. If there has really been lots of these debates, you should know that they all end in a big mess of nothing.

And in regards to your question, Tumor actually summed it up quite eloquently on a few posts ago. So maybe it's time for a subject change, since I don't think any of us are going to change our mind about the whole thing.


Ke$ha said she wants to make a country album in the future, as it's the genre she grew up around the most. Thoughts?

TumorAttitude

I hate country. I prefer half-assed mainstream pop music about meaningless sex. If she makes a country album, I'll probably "unlike" her on facebook and try to delete every post I've made in this thread.