Michael Jackson

~~Soulflower~~ · 04-29-2013, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

Actually I think people on this board make this argument about 'Boring' music not 'Popular' music.

What exactly is boring music? I agree that there is such a thing but just want to know your definition of it and can you give an example.

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

And as most of the charts are (and always have been) filled with lowest common denominator crap to appeal to the masses

Your right.

However

I think this case is mostly for the music industry TODAY.

The music industry over the last 10 years is alot different then how it was during the6 0s, 70s, 80s and when Michael Jackson was dominating. During Michaels prime he was competing with the likes of Al Green, Stevie Wonder, Lionel Ritchie, Gap Band, Prince, etc I personally dont think these artists are the lowest of the demoniator when they are some of the greatest artists of their time. Alot of there hits (radio hits) are also classics that are not generic.

Are you honestly implying songs like Billie Jean, Lets Stay Together, Sign O Times, If Really Love Me are generic songs? Just because they were popular during their time doesnt mean they are generic.

Fast forward 30 something years later... 2013 pop industry is a sham and most of the Top 20 artists dont have a spec of the talent most of the above artists have. There also is not alot of competition as far as talent and variety. The quality of music is very different as well but that is because the music industry today is not about music and is a business out to make money. It has always been about making money but its very structured differently today.

I just dont think its fair to say the past eras of the industry is the same as how it is now because they are completely different.

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

I don't see what the problem is.

There isnt a problem.

I just dont think its fair to argue that ALL pop music has always been garbage just because the current pop scene is garbage.

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

Any artist with any proper talent will be given credit among music fans no matter what their personal tastes. I don't happen to like Pavarotti, that doesn't mean I can't respect his vocal talents.

I agree.

So would you agree that Michael Jackson was talented? (Whether you are a fan or not)

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

And how can you seriously go on and on and on about how many successes someone has had with awards & hit records, airplay & general mainstream exposure and then claim that someone 'havent bothered to listen to all his music before making a generalized assumption' is quite frankly laughable.

I have not mentioned any awards Michael Jackson has won or discussed any of his achievements. A poster questioned his involvement in his music making process which I disagreed with. I just argued that he was involved in making his music with writing his music and even produced some of his songs. There are even demos on youtube where he created alot of the songs on Thriller, OTW, Bad at his house with instruments prior to Quincy even receving the songs.

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

The guy released about 7 singles off each album. It was more of a challenge NOT to hear him.

He did not release 7 singles on each of his albums and singles does not represent an artists entire catalogue especially if someone is arguing an artist was not experimental by relying on JUST their "singles" to generalize their entire catalogue.