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2Decibels 09-18-2009 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 738590)
No they're not, the guy was a nervous wreck from stress at having to play 50 gigs and was a drug addict in the process. If you think a person can manage that & not have any ill effects i'd like to meet them.
You knew him then? You saw he was a nervous wreck? Check out the YouTube video for the TII Trailer, it will show you just how much of a 'nervous wreck' he was. And he wasn't a drug addict, I think you'll find that he had insomnia and needed drugs to sleep.

boo boo 09-18-2009 01:18 PM
I'm the most diehard Jackson fanboy around. But you have to be crazy not to realise that the guy had some serious problems.

2Decibels 09-18-2009 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 738596)
I'm the most diehard Jackson fanboy around. But you have to be crazy not to realise that the guy had some serious problems.
Yeah, he did have his problems and everybody realises that but he wasn't what he's being portrayed and what happened clearly also isn't what has been portrayed.

P.S - I saw the 'Your Stupid' comment before the edit.

Arya Stark 09-18-2009 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 2Decibels (Post 738597)
Yeah, he did have his problems and everybody realises that but he wasn't what he's being portrayed and what happened clearly also isn't what has been portrayed.

P.S - I saw the 'Your Stupid' comment before the edit.
Do you realize what you're saying? Whether or not he was addicted to drugs, he overdosed on them, and they led to his death. If he had been as careful as anyone should be, he wouldn't have overdosed.

I LOVE Michael Jackson. Don't get me wrong. But I'm not going to try blaming everyone for his death. If people never move on, there will never be a true respect for him. Leave him alone, let him rest in peace.

2Decibels 09-18-2009 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by AwwSugar (Post 738600)
Do you realize what you're saying? Whether or not he was addicted to drugs, he overdosed on them, and they led to his death. If he had been as careful as anyone should be, he wouldn't have overdosed.
But HE didn't overdose, he wasn't adminstering(sp?) them, his doctor was.

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-18-2009 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 2Decibels (Post 738603)
But HE didn't overdose, he wasn't adminstering(sp?) them, his doctor was.
Because he was suffering a cardiac arrest.

Caused by........?

Arya Stark 09-18-2009 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 2Decibels (Post 738603)
But HE didn't overdose, he wasn't adminstering(sp?) them, his doctor was.
I can't believe you're still arguing this. It's depressing.

2Decibels 09-18-2009 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 738605)
Because he was suffering a cardiac arrest.

Caused by........?
He wasn't given drugs because he had a cardiac arrest, he was being given them to sleep and they're the drugs which he was overdosed on.

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-18-2009 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 2Decibels (Post 738608)
He wasn't given drugs because he had a cardiac arrest, he was being given them to sleep and they're the drugs which he was overdosed on.
Then the doctor didn't administer anything Jackson did, the doctor just supplied them. If Jackson overdosed on them then it's his own fault.

Janszoon 09-18-2009 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 2Decibels (Post 738560)
It wasn't his choice though, he had literally no control over anything. I can only assume you take your information from the media and no other? If you did any sort of research into Michael you'd know that but of course unless you're interested or a fan then you wouldn't. He was surrounded by very shady people and he wasn't taking 'boatloads' of pharmaceuticals, he didn't die as a result of that. Again, if you researched you'd find out that his body was moved after he died.
LOL. Good grief. I can see this conversation will go nowhere. :rolleyes:

One question though: Do you not know what the word "media" means? Because unless you're having first hand conversations with Michael Jackson's associates, all of your information is coming from "the media".

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Originally Posted by 2Decibels (Post 738603)
But HE didn't overdose, he wasn't adminstering(sp?) them, his doctor was.
Who overdosed then? Tito?


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