Guybrush

Holy ****, that man is scary. In that beatbox-video, he doesn't even look human. He's like a terminator, only he's not made for killin', he's made for entertainment.

Many, many years ago, a friend of mine saw a guy from his school, in public, close his eyes and sing MJ's Earth Song with feeling. That guy must've been immune to embarassment.

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mjscarousal

First and foremost, nobody knows if Michael Jackson did what he was accused of doing AND I'm not making an excuse for Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson is going to do whatever the hell he wants to do. ALot of the things that he does is eccentric but that is because of his childhood and upbringing. He never had a childhood so to him that may be in the norm for him. He has said he slept on the floor AND anyway that doesn't necessarily mean that he would commit a sexual act just because his in the company of a child. But folks love to assume the negative. A man lost his childhood and he is trying to go about reliving it in the wrong way and it goes against the eyes of society thats my opinion on it.

I just think its unfair to judge a person you know nothing about. Maybe learn about his life story and maybe you might understand why he does some of the things that he does BUT its really not that important once again its a music thread.

If you want to sit here and analyze why Michael Jackson does this or that OR the trial, then your in the wrong thread period.

I'm not putting them on a pedestal you are. I've stated their not perfect. If Michael Jackson whats to give a explanation on his private life or anything he does that is UP TO HIM otherwise he doesn't owe nobody nothing, that is HIS choice. Just because he chooses not to, should not be held against him but since America is consumed with pop culture, they will come up with their own mess to give to the masses. Were here to talk about Music and if you choose not why continue to discuss things that is not about Jacksons music?


Urban. I dont think that but what I do think is when other people have different opinions from the main folks that run this thing, sometimes you people threaten to ban them because their opinion is different from yours OR some folks are disrespectful as far as respecting other people's opinions just because...you can.

There are alot of opinions on this board that I find ridiculous, immature, biased and narrow minded but you know what I still TRY to respect it no matter how ludacris it sounds.

Debates are fine BUT when you constantly bring up things that are irrelavant to music, lack to be open minded, state a fact that is just an opinion OR bash the other person that has a different opinion that you, how is the debate fair or even interesting to the other person. How is the debate intesting period?




I have posted other than here
and why make that an excuse for the immature crap that goes on on this board it doesn't prove anything. There is nothing wrong with disagreeing but when you bring up irrelavent things, make immature cracks, and numerous things I've mentioned already its immature and tiring because you people do it all the time.




Then what point are you trying to make with constantly bringing up the trial or his personal business that you know nothing about?

sleepy jack

Urban isn't the one "constantly" bringing it up. In fact its you pigheaded fanboys who can't take something said against him that keep bring it up. "You don't like his music? You're just judging him because he sleeps with little boys! Blah blah blah."

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jackhammer

I fucking hate fanboys. Learn to take criticism. It makes you more endearing to the masses. MJ made some OK pop tunes way back over 25 years ago. He has'nt pushed the genre anymore since then. He has'nt conducted any interviews that are particulary erudite and he has'nt promoted new bands or contributed to the music scene with innovation. THAT'S why we have a problem with him.

If you want to hero worship a guy that has dangled babies outside of hotel windows and had allegations about child abuse thrown at him then go ahead. Just don't expect the rest of us to be drooling over a guy who essentially makes disco music.

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Urban Hat€monger ?

I never suggested anywhere he had sex with anyone. Regardless of what he may or may not have done you don't seem to realise some people are appalled at his behaviour and don't want to separate the man from the music. And if people want to do that then it's entirely up to them. And if they want to make comments in here they're more than welcome to. There are a lot of people who DO like his music but cannot bring themselves to listen to it anymore and they have just as much right to comment as anybody.

See above

I've never banned one person because of a difference of opinion and as far as I am aware neither have any other mods and I find it such a cop out when people use this argument against us. People get banned for being abusive not because they have a differing opinion.

And more credit for you for doing so, If there were more people like you my job would be easier.

I'm not bringing them up , i'm just commenting on what's already here just as you are.



Just because you disagree with it doesn't make it immature crap

Like I said , i'm just commenting on what's already here. This isn't a Jackson fansite and plenty of other threads discuss other aspects of artists life other than music. That doesn't make them wrong. If an artist chooses to seek publicity constantly then expect people to comment on it.

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Puck_Yu

If you dont think mike is a chomo then let your kids stay at his house. My boy would not go anywhere near his house. It is f#cked up that thier parents would let them go in the first place though. i mean even if he has been falsely accused, what kind of parent would let thier kids go to an accused chomo's house? Not good, not good at all

MusicHoncho

MJ is a very talented song writer and performer with many strange and scary personal issues. I have left him on my iPod and enjoy "beating it" every once and a while.

Mojo

Boy, thats unfortunate...

mjscarousal

I do realise that and I understand thats why people find it hard to listen to his music BUT like I said, His been singing since he was 5 and how he acts nobody cant change AND also alot of folks need to stop being judgmental but this goes for any celebrity. Your not with them 24/7 to make some assement BUT your ultimately going to think what you want to think.


All the mess and legal problems in the past with Jackson is not changing either, so why spend 7 pages trying to talk about the obvious? For what. We know the man has issues thats not the original point of the thread. Its about his music and his talent which still and always will be relevant regardless of all the mess his been into.


Its nothing wrong with talking about his personal life but its immature when you constantly come into the thread and hold that against his music.

I accept critiscism and understand everybody is not going to like the same thing you like but some of you people need to grow up and it has nothing to do with the biased Michael Jackson opinions. You can think whatever you want to think about his music or him but how some of you carry it is ridiculous.

We know some of you don't like him.
We know some of you don't like his music.
We know some of you think his overrated.
We know some of you only hold his older work more.
Why constantly come into the thread and make comments that everyone already knows where you stand at? Why come into the thread and bash people that enjoy Michael Jackson's music and I'm NOT talking specifically to YOU with half of this post because you seem to act like alot of your people don't carry like that when they do. Why come into the thread if your not interested in Jackson and just want to start drama.. its tired.


Let the people that appreaciate Jackson's MUSIC have some real music discussions and not all the drama thats all I'm saying. I'm not trying to change your opinion and I've already accepted how you feel, some of you people just need to accept other peoples opinion period.

AshuhLee

I only got through the first 10 pages, since most of this is just bashing and some kid trying to post facts he knows squat about.
But with that being said;
I grew up on MJ, Madonna, and Prince [being that I lived with my brother for a time, a homosexual male.] and I love them all. Regardless of what everyone else says about it and thinks about their music. [I respect your opinion, Jack, saying that Madonna is trash. Just the same as I respect everyone else's opinions on why you hate, or love the above artists, so could no one crap all over my life, please? Lol.]

I love Bad, Off the Wall, History, Thriller, and really, anything he's made up until after Off the Wall.

I will never call a band, or artist, or song, or anything else related to music for that matter trash. I respect music much too much. And I think that all music had a purpose to the person who made it. Who took the time to work on it. Do I think some songs possibly should have been never been made? Sure. But at the same time I think that every piece of music has a reason to that person. Be it Money, love, a message, getting to their listeners, hitting it big, etc.

And now I'm going on about nothing.
What I'm really trying to say here, is that I do like MJ, his personal life aside. But I do not think he is the best or most influential person ever.
So what if he's called the King of Pop? Elvis was called the king too, way back when, and look what happened to him.

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