Michael Jackson

**Janszoon** · 09-04-2008, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Whatsitoosit

I've enjoyed most of everything he has written up until the History album, he is a very talented artist and can write an awesome pop song.

How much of his music has actually written? I've always kind of wondered about that.

Whatsitoosit · 09-04-2008, 12:28 PM

up until Invincible I always assumed he wrote and/or co-wrote most if not all of his best work. Honestly I never really looked on the older stuff but after listening to Invincible I opened that CD booklet up and sure enough his name was no where to be found on most (if not all, it's been a while) of the songs. I think he hired a team to write him songs that would fit into the trends at the time, which was the worst thing he could have done. Michael Jackson is best at starting trends, not following them... as a follower he stinks.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 09-04-2008, 12:34 PM

I would have thought that something as bad as Earth Song could only come from one mans ego.

Whatsitoosit · 09-04-2008, 12:42 PM

lol... Earth song was on the History album (and he actually did write it), I like "Stranger in Moscow" and "They don't really care about us" from that album.

**Janszoon** · 09-04-2008, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whatsitoosit

up until Invincible I always assumed he wrote and/or co-wrote most if not all of his best work. Honestly I never really looked on the older stuff but after listening to Invincible I opened that CD booklet up and sure enough his name was no where to be found on most (if not all, it's been a while) of the songs. I think he hired a team to write him songs that would fit into the trends at the time, which was the worst thing he could have done. Michael Jackson is best at starting trends, not following them... as a follower he stinks.

I just looked up Thriller, looks like he wrote 4 of the 9 songs on it: "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'", "The Girl Is Mine" (with Paul McCartney), "Beat It" and "Billie Jean". On Invincible it looks like he wrote or co-wrote all but one of the songs.

Whatsitoosit · 09-04-2008, 12:46 PM

Really? like I said it's been a while... I remember not just seeing his name by most of the songs (didn't really recall seeing it by any). Was he the main writer of any of them? was his name always last as co-writer? it just doesn't seem like the kind of music he is known for.

never mind, I see it now... my apologies for the false info, for some reason I remember not noticing him as the writer. Maybe it's because there seems to be so many writers on most of the album.

Now that I look at his other albums I see he always had numerous writers... I guess Invincible was just a bad attempt at making a come back or just too many chefs in the kitchen... there is up to 6 writers on some of the songs on that album, wtf???

Whatsitoosit · 09-04-2008, 02:21 PM

I'm sure he still knows... he just needs the right team of people around him I think.

**Janszoon** · 09-04-2008, 04:33 PM

Interesting thing I found out in reading up on which songs he wrote: He played drums on "Beat It". It's funny, for some reason I have I hard time picturing him playing drums.

Whatsitoosit · 09-04-2008, 07:03 PM

I never knew that... pretty interesting tidbit of info. I remember hearing for Billy Jean they mic'd and recorded the drums in a more elaborate way then usual, also... Michael worked for 2 weeks on the opening bass line as he wanted to create the "perfect" bass line. I think he came pretty damn close if you ask me.

thebeesknees · 09-04-2008, 09:57 PM

like it or not, MJ is one of the best pop acts EVER!!!! granted he is a freakazoid, you cannot deny that he is musical genius!!! no way!

09-04-2008, 12:28 PM	#152 (permalink)
Whatsitoosit Bringer of Carrots Join Date: May 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 648	up until Invincible I always assumed he wrote and/or co-wrote most if not all of his best work. Honestly I never really looked on the older stuff but after listening to Invincible I opened that CD booklet up and sure enough his name was no where to be found on most (if not all, it's been a while) of the songs. I think he hired a team to write him songs that would fit into the trends at the time, which was the worst thing he could have done. Michael Jackson is best at starting trends, not following them... as a follower he stinks. __________________ "It takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but it doesn't take any to just sit there with a dumb look on your face."

09-04-2008, 12:34 PM	#153 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I would have thought that something as bad as Earth Song could only come from one mans ego. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

09-04-2008, 12:42 PM	#154 (permalink)
Whatsitoosit Bringer of Carrots Join Date: May 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 648	lol... Earth song was on the History album (and he actually did write it), I like "Stranger in Moscow" and "They don't really care about us" from that album. __________________ "It takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but it doesn't take any to just sit there with a dumb look on your face."

09-04-2008, 12:46 PM	#156 (permalink)
Whatsitoosit Bringer of Carrots Join Date: May 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 648	Really? like I said it's been a while... I remember not just seeing his name by most of the songs (didn't really recall seeing it by any). Was he the main writer of any of them? was his name always last as co-writer? it just doesn't seem like the kind of music he is known for. never mind, I see it now... my apologies for the false info, for some reason I remember not noticing him as the writer. Maybe it's because there seems to be so many writers on most of the album. Now that I look at his other albums I see he always had numerous writers... I guess Invincible was just a bad attempt at making a come back or just too many chefs in the kitchen... there is up to 6 writers on some of the songs on that album, wtf??? __________________ "It takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but it doesn't take any to just sit there with a dumb look on your face." Last edited by Whatsitoosit; 09-04-2008 at 12:53 PM.

09-04-2008, 02:21 PM	#157 (permalink)
Whatsitoosit Bringer of Carrots Join Date: May 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 648	I'm sure he still knows... he just needs the right team of people around him I think. __________________ "It takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but it doesn't take any to just sit there with a dumb look on your face."

09-04-2008, 04:33 PM	#158 (permalink)
Janszoon Mate, Spawn & Die Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Rapping Community Posts: 24,593	Interesting thing I found out in reading up on which songs he wrote: He played drums on "Beat It". It's funny, for some reason I have I hard time picturing him playing drums.

09-04-2008, 07:03 PM	#159 (permalink)
Whatsitoosit Bringer of Carrots Join Date: May 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 648	I never knew that... pretty interesting tidbit of info. I remember hearing for Billy Jean they mic'd and recorded the drums in a more elaborate way then usual, also... Michael worked for 2 weeks on the opening bass line as he wanted to create the "perfect" bass line. I think he came pretty damn close if you ask me. __________________ "It takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but it doesn't take any to just sit there with a dumb look on your face." Last edited by Whatsitoosit; 09-04-2008 at 07:09 PM.

09-04-2008, 09:57 PM	#160 (permalink)
thebeesknees Groupie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3	like it or not, MJ is one of the best pop acts EVER!!!! granted he is a freakazoid, you cannot deny that he is musical genius!!! no way!