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Old 12-22-2014, 04:16 AM   #1521 (permalink)
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ok, i generally for rock music and whatever, but ive recently been getting into some michael jackson, what do you guys think? ignore the whole him being strange thing, and the pedophile thing, and the turning white thing, and lets talk about his music.....bille jean kicks arse!
Billie Jean is very cool.

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Old 12-22-2014, 04:17 AM   #1522 (permalink)
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How can we miss him when his music, the only part of him with which we could interact, is left? We can still listen to it.
Good point.
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Spike Lee Announces NEW Michael Jackson Project


NEW PROJECT INVOLVING ' OFF THE WALL

This past Saturday (08/11), during the Festival of TagCDMX technology and Creativity, the filmmaker Spike Lee (Director of "They don't Care About Us", "BAD25" Doc etc.) made an important announcement for fans of the King of Pop--a documentary about OFF THE WALL is coming!

He didn't give many details, but it is believed a Making Of the album, in the style of "BAD 25"-which is filled with some previously unseen images, trivia and interviews about the songs and music videos from the album.

http://entretenimiento.terra.com.mx/...f46d0RCRD.html



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Today I Had The Honor Od Interviewing Ms. Katherine Jackson For My Doc On Her Son Michael Joseph Jackson's Album OFF THE WALL. God Bless Her.


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This Man Mr. Joseph Jackson Had A Dream,A Vision For His Children To Make A Way In This World Through Their Talents. Mr.Jackson , The Patriarch Of The Family Gave Us A Great Interview For The Doc I'm Doing On His Son's OFF THE WALL ALBUM.


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Chairman,Owner,Songw riter,Producer And Visionary Mr. Berry Gordy. Motown-The Sound Of Young America. Mr.Gordy Blessed Us With An Interview For My Doc On Michael Jackson's OFF THE WALL Album.


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My Main Man-St. Stevie Wonder. I Interviewed Stevie For My Documentary On Michael Jackson's OFF THE WALL Album. HISTORIC. YA-DIG? SHO-NUFF


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Big blast being interviewed by Spike Lee for his forthcoming documentary Michael Jackson's OFF THE WALL. @SpikeLee


Off The Wall Era: Michael Joseph Jackson
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Old 02-26-2015, 09:10 AM   #1524 (permalink)
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Spike Lee Announces NEW Michael Jackson Project


NEW PROJECT INVOLVING ' OFF THE WALL

This past Saturday (08/11), during the Festival of TagCDMX technology and Creativity, the filmmaker Spike Lee (Director of "They don't Care About Us", "BAD25" Doc etc.) made an important announcement for fans of the King of Pop--a documentary about OFF THE WALL is coming!

He didn't give many details, but it is believed a Making Of the album, in the style of "BAD 25"-which is filled with some previously unseen images, trivia and interviews about the songs and music videos from the album.

http://entretenimiento.terra.com.mx/...f46d0RCRD.html



sheltonjlee
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Today I Had The Honor Od Interviewing Ms. Katherine Jackson For My Doc On Her Son Michael Joseph Jackson's Album OFF THE WALL. God Bless Her.


sheltonjlee
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This Man Mr. Joseph Jackson Had A Dream,A Vision For His Children To Make A Way In This World Through Their Talents. Mr.Jackson , The Patriarch Of The Family Gave Us A Great Interview For The Doc I'm Doing On His Son's OFF THE WALL ALBUM.


sheltonjlee
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Chairman,Owner,Songw riter,Producer And Visionary Mr. Berry Gordy. Motown-The Sound Of Young America. Mr.Gordy Blessed Us With An Interview For My Doc On Michael Jackson's OFF THE WALL Album.


sheltonjlee
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My Main Man-St. Stevie Wonder. I Interviewed Stevie For My Documentary On Michael Jackson's OFF THE WALL Album. HISTORIC. YA-DIG? SHO-NUFF


SIEDAH GARRETT @SIEDAHGARRETT · 4h 4 hours ago
Big blast being interviewed by Spike Lee for his forthcoming documentary Michael Jackson's OFF THE WALL. @SpikeLee


Off The Wall Era: Michael Joseph Jackson
I'm actually interested to see this. Off The Wall was a groundbreaking album and the entire story behind the inception and history of it should be fun to watch. Also Spike Lee seems like a very natural pick for it, and I always loved Mo Better Blues which was musically based.
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I do like Off The Wall
I might have to give this a watch.
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I'm actually interested to see this. Off The Wall was a groundbreaking album and the entire story behind the inception and history of it should be fun to watch. Also Spike Lee seems like a very natural pick for it, and I always loved Mo Better Blues which was musically based.

Thanks for the welcome back by the way! Its great to see you as well, missed you xxx Also, yes Spike is a HUGE MJ fan lol. MJ and him were actually friends, he did a documentary to celebrate the 25th anniversary of MJ's BAD era in 2012. Spike Lee also directed Michael's "They Don't Really Care About Us" music video. He seems to really respect Michael and it reflects in his work.
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I do like Off The Wall
I might have to give this a watch.
Yessss you should!!!, I think its Michael's most underrated works and ironically Mike at his best. I am EXCITED
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Yessss you should!!!, I think its Michael's most underrated works
Well that's one of the reasons it interests me.
I was old enough to be aware of all the Thiller stuff and his rise in the 80s and seen so much stuff from that era.
Off The Wall came out when I was something like 6 years old and before I'd really developed any great interest in music, plus that time seems to get overshadowed by what he did later.

I like music documentaries, I even watch ones of bands I don't like and find them interesting.
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Well that's one of the reasons it interests me.
I was old enough to be aware of all the Thiller stuff and his rise in the 80s and seen so much stuff from that era.
Off The Wall came out when I was something like 6 years old and before I'd really developed any great interest in music, plus that time seems to get overshadowed by what he did later.

I like music documentaries, I even watch ones of bands I don't like and find them interesting.
Wow unfortunately I wasn't as lucky as you and wasn't born yet lol I actually got into Off The Wall later on and yes it is criminally overshadowed. I think some of his greatest moments as a songwriter and vocalist are on OTW. Michael singed like a butterfly and his vocals were so smooth. His singing style later got more gritty (which I also love) but there are some very unique special moments that is captured on this album that is distinct for that album. Also, it was down right funky! Mike should have stayed with that funk!!


I am not sure if you read this but I did a review of Off the wall and talked about the underrated tracks of the album. Here are the posts just in case you didn't or are interested.

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Off The Wall


Michael Jackson's fifth solo album. This album was released on August 10, 1979.

Producers: Quincy Jones
Co Producer: Michael Jackson


Fun Fact: Michael Jackson starred as the Scarecrow in the 1978 film "The Wiz" along side superstar and friend Diana Ross. The musical scores were composed by Quincy Jones for the film. MJ and Quincy became friends while working on the film and MJ expressed interest in working with Quincy for his adult solo album and Quincy agreed.




Off The Wall's non-singles and underrated gems:

Track 3: Working Day and Night
Track 4: Get On the Floor
Track 8: I Can't Help It
Track 9: It's The Falling In Love
Track 10: Burn The Disco Out

side note: some of these songs were not singles but still get played like they were but still going to discuss them.

Track 3: Working Day And Night


Songwriters: Michael Jackson
Producer: Quincy Jones
Co Producer: Michael Jackson


Song facts:
The song was not a single but is a B-side for "Rock with You" single in the USA, and B-side for "Off the Wall" single in the UK. The song has a tempo of 128 beats per minute, making it one of Jackson's fastest songs. From wiki


Fun fact: MJ originally composed the song and percussion arrangements at his Jackson family house in Encino California. His siblings Janet and Randy Jackson helped with playing some of the percussion instruments. MJ plays some of the percussion instruments as well in the demo version. Some of these instruments include guitar, drums, synthesizer piano, shakers

Demo version of Working Day and Night:
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Vocal arrangement: Michael Jackson
Lead and Background Vocals: Michael Jackson
Original Demo from 1978 - 4:10 long
The song fuses elements of funk, disco, jazz, dance, and r&b


Percussion arrangement and facts for Studio released song version:

Bass: Louis Johnson
Drums: John Robinson
Guitar: David Williams and Phil Upchurch
Electric piano and synthesizer: Greg Phillinganes
Synthesizer programming: Michael Boddicker
Percussion: Paulinho Da Costa, John Robinson and Michael Jackson
Horns arranged by Jerry Hey and performed by The Seawind Horns:
Trumpet and flugelhorn: Jerry Hey
Tenor, alto saxophones and flute: Larry Williams
Baritone, tenor saxophones and flute: Kim Hutchcroft
Trombone: William Reichenbach
Trumpet: Gary Grant
Rhythm and vocal arrangements by Greg Phillinganes and Michael Jackson. From wiki


My Review: The beginning opening begins with MJ's making voice adlibs and breathing sounds and goes straight into the funky piano synthesizers exactly like the demo version. My favorite portions of this song are the mini break downs within the song that are fancy MJ harmony adlibs repeated together and the jam session toward the end of the song is incredible. I LOVEEEEEEEEE this song! . It is so funky and undeniably catchy you just have to dance to it. The subject matter is great as well and MJ is a great songwriter and shows that he can write a great pop song. MJ is cutting up on this track with his sassy funky vocals and ablibs!

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Track 4: Get On the Floor

Songwriters: Michael Jackson and Louis Johnson
Producer: Quincy Jones
Co Producer: Michael Jackson

Bass: Louis Johnson---- side note: Dude killed on the bass, I LOVE the bass in this song!!!
Genres: The songs fuses is heavily influenced by disco, funk and soul elements.



My Review: This is my all time favorite track on this album. This song is hands down the best song on the album. The main reason why I LOVEEEEEEEEE this song is because of Louis Johnson amazing bassist percussion arrangment ESPECIALLY in the beginning. It is just amazing musicianship and a great opener for the song. The song opens up with catchy bass arrangement and a disco arrangement that is similar for the era. MJ is repeating an adlib over and over in the background that almost sounds like a echoe but is prepping for the chorus. The chorus is amazing and is very disco sounding. I always think of Saturday Night Fever and a shiny disco ball when I listen to the chorus lol MJ sings "Get on the floor and dance with me... I love the way ya shake ya thing... especially" and that is exactly what the chorus will make you want to do!!! The overall composition and percussion is stellar. I really like the breakdown towards the end that is once again repeated MJ adlibs and voice overs.


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Track 8: I Can't Help It

Songwriters: Stevie Wonder and Susaye Greene-Browne
Producers: Quincy Jones
Vocal Arrangement: Stevie Wonder


“Stevie came to me and said he wanted to write something for Michael,” Susaye, then in the midst of recording backup vocals for Stevie’s double album, Songs in the Key of Life, tells host Darryl Williams.



Source: Michael Jackson Was Enthralled by Stevie Wonder’s Fabulous, Pulsating Sound, Says Susaye GreeneBlogTalkRadio blog

Fun fact: Susaye Green- Brown was the last official member of the Supremes

My Review: Despite not being a single, this song is critically acclaim and is hailed as one of MJ's best song. I LOVE this song! Stevie was definitely right when he pinned this song for MJ because he was clearly meant for him to sing! I really love the song's opening. The song sounds like it would be a Stevie Wonder song because Stevie has similar openers to his songs. I love the simplistic of the production and the jazz elements about it. I really love MJ's adlibs throughout the song. The song exemplifies MJ's strength as a vocalist and his ability to creatively show emotion through various styles of tones and adlibs.
Genres: The song is a mixture of jazz, soul and r&b



Track 9: It's The Falling In Love


Vocal Duets: Michael Jackson and Patti Austin
Songwriters: Carole Bayer Sager and David Foster
Producers: Quincy Jones



Source: Patti Austin sings Ellington | Washington Examiner
Fun Fact: Patti Austin was a popular 70s R&B singer of the time
Genres: Soul, R&B, Pop

My Review:

This is a beautiful duet. Patti and MJ have great chemistry despite the age difference. Patti;s soft vocals melts with the production and MJ as usual shines vocally. The song is a very soulful typical R&B love song. However, there are some undertones of funk especially with the horns percussion and bass. I usually do not like duets but this is a really nice duet and Patti was an excellent choice.

Track 10: Burn This Disco Out Lyrics

Songwriters: Rod Temperton
Producers: Quincy Jones


My Review: I LOVEEE this song!!! It is a great funk/disco track and Quincy put his foot in the production! I really love the opening and the live instruments. It is a very good uptempo dance funk song. I really love the breakdown in this song. It reminds me of a Earth Wind and Fire song or Sly Family Stone song. This has another great jam session towards the end. If you love the funk then this track is for you!

Credits for Percussion overall on the album:

Michael Jackson – lead and backing vocals, co-producer, percussion
Randy Jackson – percussion
Michael Boddicker – keyboards, synthesizers, programming
Larry Carlton – electric guitar
George Duke – keyboards, synthesizers, programming
David Foster – keyboards, synthesizers, programming
Gary Grant – trumpet, flügelhorn
Marlo Henderson – guitar
Jerry Hey – trumpet, flügelhorn
Kim Hutchcroft – saxophone, flute, trumpet, flügelhorn
Louis Johnson – bass guitar
Quincy Jones – producer
Greg Phillinganes – keyboards, synthesizers, programming
Steve Porcaro – keyboards, synthesizers, programming
William Reichenbach – trombone
John "JR" Robinson – drums
Bruce Swedien – recording engineer
Phil Upchurch – guitar
Bobby Watson – bass guitar
Wah Wah Watson – guitar
David Williams – guitar
Larry Williams – saxophone, flute
Richard Heath – percussion
Paulinho da Costa – percussion
David Williams – guitar
David "Hawk" Wolinski – electric piano
Patti Austin – vocals
Jim Gilstrap – vocals
Augie Johnson – vocals
Mortonette Jenkins – vocals
Paulette Mc Williams – vocals
Zedrick Williams – vocals
Horn and string arrangements by Jerry Hey and performed by The Seawind Horns, Ben Wright, Johnny Mandel. From wiki


Demo version of "Don't Stop Till You Get Enough"

Songwriters: Michael Jackson
Vocal Arrangement: Michael Jackson
Percussion Arrangement: Michael Jackson
It is in the key of B major (or more precisely, B Mixolydian mode) and in common time signature.


This is a single but I just wanted to post the demo. This demo was recorded WAY before Quincy did the final touches as you can see there is not that much difference from the final studio version. MJ also plays some of the percussion instruments in this. This was also recorded at MJ's home.

Fun Fact: In 2001 there was a special edition release of the Off The Wall album that features demo versions of Working Day and Night and Dont Stop Till You Get Enough. It also has interviews from Quincy Jones about the production of the album and certain songs.

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The track "Girlfriend" was a single but it is underrated in my opinion so I am briefly going to discuss it.

Girlfriend was the last single from the Off the Wall album and it was released on July 60, 1980. It was written by Paul McCartney and produced by Quincy Jones


Fun fact: Paul Mcartney and MJ were good friends. Paul Mcartney had wrote the song for MJ to sing. Paul Mcartney had mentioned to MJ that he had a song that he wanted him to sing for his solo album. MJ was a big Beatles fan and had agreed. However, McCartney ended up recording it himself with his band Wings, and it was issued in 1978 on the album London Town. It was later suggested to Quincy for a possible track and he had no idea that Paul Mcartney had wrote for MJ in the first place. Some of Mcartney's version is omitted from Michael's version but MJ eventually recorded it for his album and it became a single in the UK.


My Review: This song sounds like Beatles/Paul McCartney sound but MJ makes it his own. I personally prefer Lennon as a songwriter but Paul does his thing here for this song. Like Stevie, I think he made a great choice in picking MJ for the song I really like the bubble gum pop energy to the song. The production is really good. I would say it is MJ's least soulful song on the album but it is still nice and flows with the album.
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