Soulflower

^ Are you honestly implying that MJ's children were NEVER in his bedroom with him?????How do you know that? Were you there with him in his bedroom? They lived with him and he raised them so its perfectly possible they were in the room with him most of the time.



Are you aware that many celebrities have the same thing before entering their rooms? This is not that uncommon and my reasons for the usage of the alarm was not SOLELY because he had children. If you read, I also mentioned that Michael could not trust alot of people and he received death threats and feared for his life. There were break in's on more than one occassion at his house. So given those reasons its perfectly understandable why he would want an alarm before entering his bedroom.

Its HIS bedroom and no one should not be entering it without his consent in the first place.

I think your arguement is very elementary. You seem to think he is a child molestor so why are you inquirying about the usage of the alarm when you already have your mind made up?

Also, there were alarms and security cameras at the house.I think you should research more instead of making assumptions.

djchameleon

I'm inquiring about the alarm because I wanted to see what tales you would spin to justify it but yes I'm stuck in my ways and I believe the alarm was used for a very specific purpose outside of regular safety. If the Neverland ranch is getting broken into constantly. You'd think he would up the security around the whole place and not just his room.

You don't have to respond to me anymore. I guess I got everything I wanted out of the conversation.

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Soulflower

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They are not "tales" and I am not justifying anything. It isnt a crime for someone to have an alarm before entering their bedroom (just because you personally wouldnt do it doesnt mean its a crime) and there are ALOT of celebrities that do the same thing.

You're not put in the same position where you are fearing for your life and you have alot of people at your house that you can not trust so you shouldnt judge someone who is in a different situation than yourself. Its easy to judge someone and come to your own conclusion from the outside looking in.

The information that I told you is not based on "assumptions" or "tales". The information I told you is based on recorded accounts, court records and what came out of Michael Jackson's own mouth. Based on those factual sources, I think those are valid reasons for why someone would want an alarm for their bedroom for protection whether they have children or not. It appears you are justifying those reasons because you believe in your preconceived notion of the purpose of the alarm. Thats okay with me lol I was simply trying to enlighten you with the real purposes of the alarm.

I asked that question because your responses seem as though you were not trying to be objective/open minded to what I had presented to you but its all good lol

djchameleon

I'm sorry that I can't be open minded and objective about pedophilia claims.

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Soulflower

So you believe everything you hear?

So just because someone accuses someone of something that automatically makes it true?

Wow.

Im sorry too you cant be objective in this particular topic about facts instead of your own beliefs that are based on lies.

djchameleon

He is guilty until proven innocent as far as I'm concerned. Also, the things that you are going around claiming as facts aren't really facts. They are the claims of one person, who is to say that he isn't lying. Why is everyone else lying and he is the most honest person in the world?

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Soulflower

:/ He was proven innocent in court of law and if you actually followed the trial instead of relying on your assumptions and gossip you would see there simply was no evidence that proved he was guilty of what he was accused of doing



How so? The things I listed are from court documents, accusers parents testimonies, court transcripts, police report, records etc. Would you like for me to post all this information here? All the information I said here is made public on the internet.

You can read MJ's autospy online and the private investigation that showed the photos they took of him naked did not match the description that child described in 93' Im not making this up and I have read the sources. I would have to take my time to find and post all this information that is already made to the public that you can find yourself

Wade's 2005 testimonies in Michaels DEFENSE are not claims from Michael
Wades countless times defending MJ, giving tribute to MJ and speaking highly of MJ up until last year are not claims from Michael
When the 2005 accuser parents lied on the stand those were not claims from Michael
When the accuser lied about the description of certain body parts on Michael those were not claims from Michael
When Wade demanded money from the MJ Estate those were not claims from Michael
When the 93 accuser father blackmailed Michael those were not claims from Michael
When the 93 accuser's mother said her husband and son was lying those were not claims from Michael


There was no evidence that supports that he was guilty of what he was accused of and it appears once he stopped supporting these people financially they accused him of allegations to get money and to smear his reputation out of spite.

Im just thankful I dont drink the kool-aid and feed into the pro bashing Michael Jackson media that instigates this false propaganda about who Michael really was as a person. The man lost his childhood and they twisted his relationship with children and made it negative. He has gave MILLIONS AND MILLIONS to children charities and donations. He has went to countless hospitals donating toys, money and time. He even saved one childs life that needed a liver transplant but you wont never hear about none of that. You will hear his a child molestor, he is this, he is that... all this crap. People need to learn to think FOR THEMSELF and not feed into the media spin

djchameleon

He was innocent in one case which I actually agree with but that doesn't mean he didn't conduct that behavior with others though. I agreed with the results of that trial but that doesn't mean he was completely absolved of everything.


No, you don't have to do that. I may or may not do it on my own depending on how bored I am one day.




The accusations don't seem so far fetched for an eccentric person such as himself. It all clicks and just makes sense even without concrete evidence. There had to have been something going on there. He was just good enough not to get caught.

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Soulflower

Are you implying there have been more than one case? It was ONLY one case which is what Im trying to get you to understand. In 1993 there was not enough evidence for a criminal trial. There was an intensive investigation that INCLUDED Michael Jackson undergoing a public physical examination that required naked photos to be taken of him. They found that the child's descriptions of certain body parts on Michael did not match his depositions descrptions and that he WAS LYING which is why no charges were actually filed. Michael should not have given him money (but not because he was guilty) That was his way of making it all go away.



When I have some time I'll find some of the info and post. I think you should really make time to research what actually happened.




Thats the point I was trying to make to you earlier.

Being eccentric doesnt make you a pedophile. I think you are being beyond judgemental (on MJ). Just because someone is different from you doesnt make them a "bad" person.

Sure he was eccentric and sure some of his behavior might have been odd BUT that doesnt make him a child abuser. That doesnt make everything said about him the truth either.

It just seems YOU have trialed and found MJ guilty based on YOUR evidence and YOUR assumptions which I feel is not fair because your assumptions are not based on reliable and credible sources. There based on what YOU want to believe.

djchameleon

I sentenced him to life with no parole of being able to come back as a zombie!

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Fame, fortune, power, titties. People say these are the most crucial things in life, but you can have a pocket full o' gold and it doesn't mean sh*t if you don't have someone to share that gold with. Seems simple. Yet it's an important lesson to learn. Even lone wolves run in packs sometimes.