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Old 09-22-2016, 02:18 PM   #2751 (permalink)
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I've tried two to three episodes of the first three seasons, and AHS never seems to have enough to substantiate their storylines being fragmented by subplots. I say this as a huge horror fan.
That's pretty much the thing that's true. Even the names of the seasons give the impression that the writers are using cheesy horror tropes, like haunted houses and ****, and then fleshing them out as best they can without figuring out if those are the tropes they should be doing. The end result is of course filler melodrama.
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Yeah it's not a brilliant show by any means, so there's really no need to beat your head against the wall if you don't even like horror. What you should really be concerned about is not liking horror. The ****'s wrong with you?
What can I say, I just don't connect with it. Mostly, horror scripts are bad if you compare them to other genres. You're sort of supposed to look forward to the creepy stuff and care less about what traditionally makes a movie/show good, I guess. I'm not interested in the creepy stuff... There's a select few exceptions where I like something that technically falls into the horror category: The Thing (1982), Alien, Bram Stoker's Dracula (1992) and Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust.
Most horror doesn't affect me either, and when it does, I hate it! I still think that the Hills Have Eyes (the remake) is the worst movie I've ever seen. Why anyone would subject their minds to unconstructive, nasty filth like that is beyond me. Are people sick in the head or something? I know they're not... Just saying I reeeeaally don't get it!

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I wasn't asking you to watch the whole season but one episode? You could have at least tried like two or three before giving up. It's fine though whatever you don't like horror.
Dude, there is a billion shows out there! I have 4 complete anime series on my shelf that I still haven't gotten around to, a million bookmarked albums to check out, several unread books, enough of a gaming backlog to last me a life time and so many other things I need & want to do with my time. Sometimes, you have to place a limit very early. Most series don't even get the benefit of showing me a single episode.
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What can I say, I just don't connect with it. Mostly, horror scripts are bad if you compare them to other genres. You're sort of supposed to look forward to the creepy stuff and care less about what traditionally makes a movie/show good, I guess. I'm not interested in the creepy stuff... There's a select few exceptions where I like something that technically falls into the horror category: The Thing (1982), Alien, Bram Stoker's Dracula (1992) and Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust.
There's kind of a "new wave" of really good horror coming out right now with movies like The Babadook, The Witch, Hush, It Follows (admittedly overrated as ****, but still great), and Under the Skin that you might want to check out.

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Most horror doesn't affect me either, and when it does, I hate it! I still think that the Hills Have Eyes (the remake) is the worst movie I've ever seen. Why anyone would subject their minds to unconstructive, nasty filth like that is beyond me. Are people sick in the head or something? I know they're not... Just saying I reeeeaally don't get it!
It's exploitation and people watch it to get their twisted rocks off. It's like watching videos of car crashes or fights I guess.
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There's kind of a "new wave" of really good horror coming out right now with movies like The Babadook, The Witch, Hush, It Follows (admittedly overrated as ****, but still great), and Under the Skin that you might want to check out.



It's exploitation and people watch it to get their twisted rocks off. It's like watching videos of car crashes or fights I guess.
I did intend to watch Under the Skin, but mostly because it seems a bit sci-fi and sort of unusal, and because I like Scarlett Johansson.

I'm really not judging people who like horror! It seems like it's most people who are into horror more or less. The more nasty movies just repel me. Especially when you like the characters and you get the sense that the plot is designed to just run them through the grinder while sadistically wallowing in their misfortune. I just leave that kind of movie with a sort of depressed feeling and... why would I want to subject myself to that?
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That's pretty much the thing that's true. Even the names of the seasons give the impression that the writers are using cheesy horror tropes, like haunted houses and ****, and then fleshing them out as best they can without figuring out if those are the tropes they should be doing. The end result is of course filler melodrama.
They don't fall apart in the first three episodes, they usually fall apart near the end like he has no idea how he wants to end it until he gets closer to the end. They try to wrap it up into a nice little bow but there are usually some wtfs before getting to it.

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What can I say, I just don't connect with it. Mostly, horror scripts are bad if you compare them to other genres. You're sort of supposed to look forward to the creepy stuff and care less about what traditionally makes a movie/show good, I guess. I'm not interested in the creepy stuff... There's a select few exceptions where I like something that technically falls into the horror category: The Thing (1982), Alien, Bram Stoker's Dracula (1992) and Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust.
I disagree with that. I mean I know the types that you are thinking of but there is more to the horror genre than just those jump scare type of movies.

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Most horror doesn't affect me either, and when it does, I hate it! I still think that the Hills Have Eyes (the remake) is the worst movie I've ever seen. Why anyone would subject their minds to unconstructive, nasty filth like that is beyond me. Are people sick in the head or something? I know they're not... Just saying I reeeeaally don't get it!
How do you need horror to affect you like torture porn so that you have a visceral reaction? I bet you hate torture porn though. There are some horror movies that are excellent at story telling. Usually most ghost ones get around to it eventually after the stupid jump scares. Frown produced a pretty quality list that I was going to mention a few of from it. I loved the Hills Have Eyes remake and the second one as well. Went to see the first one three times in the theater. Not like it was some masterpiece, but I just enjoy a good revenge story. Also the reason I gravitate towards Korean Horror and some Japanese ones. Horror as a genre is pretty diverse. You just have to find what you are into.

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Dude, there is a billion shows out there! I have 4 complete anime series on my shelf that I still haven't gotten around to, a million bookmarked albums to check out, several unread books, enough of a gaming backlog to last me a life time and so many other things I need & want to do with my time. Sometimes, you have to place a limit very early. Most series don't even get the benefit of showing me a single episode.
No, I get that, I have those same backlogs like everyone else but I at least take the time to appreciate the work that are put into some of these shows. What's the point of rushing through content just for the sake of completing it and saying you did it without really getting into it? I understand if you don't want to take the time to do so but I do. I guess it also just boils down to if you enjoy it or not and you are caught up in a system where you feel like you have to judge a show prematurely to see if it's worth your time just so you can move through said list and that's sad.
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I'm really not judging people who like horror! It seems like it's most people who are into horror more or less. The more nasty movies just repel me. Especially when you like the characters and you get the sense that the plot is designed to just run them through the grinder while sadistically wallowing in their misfortune. I just leave that kind of movie with a sort of depressed feeling and... why would I want to subject myself to that?
Haha, I don't mind exploitation flicks when they're done well (the original HHE, Martyrs, etc.), I was just hoping that likening to car crash/morbid curiosity would help explain it a little better.

Oh and before bob harangues me, Martyrs is not an exploitation film, but it certainly has torture porn elements.
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I guess it also just boils down to if you enjoy it or not and you are caught up in a system where you feel like you have to judge a show prematurely to see if it's worth your time just so you can move through said list and that's sad.
Remember that I initally said that I watched that American Horror Story episode at a friend's place. If he hadn't shown me, I wouldn't even have watched one episode, but just assumed it wasn't for me. I choose to give attention to the things that seems interesting to me in some way. I have to weed out the chaff in some way. Inevitably, a few things I might have liked will get the axe, but that's the name of the game.

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Haha, I don't mind exploitation flicks when they're done well (the original HHE, Martyrs, etc.), I was just hoping that likening to car crash/morbid curiosity would help explain it a little better.
Yeah and you're probably right. I guess that mostly doesn't happen for me. I feel like the world is a terrible place in many ways. The news are depressing enough, so I don't feel like seeking out more pics of body bags.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold up. It Follows is overrated as **** but you put Hush on that list? **** that ****. I'll bite on It Follows maybe being slightly overrated, but nowhere near the level of Hush which nothing more than a generic home invasion film except with the added dimension of here being deaf.

Also, just on a side note, Don't Breathe is pretty awesome as well.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold up. It Follows is overrated as **** but you put Hush on that list? **** that ****. I'll bite on It Follows maybe being slightly overrated, but nowhere near the level of Hush which nothing more than a generic home invasion film except with the added dimension of here being deaf.

Also, just on a side note, Don't Breathe is pretty awesome as well.
Hush was presented fantastically what're you on about? In terms of plot ja, but it was rather inventive with how it built suspense and atmosphere.
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I meant to reply to that as well. Both Frownland and Djchameleon have pointed out that there is more to horror than torture porn and slasher movies, etc.

I know, and I have seen a few unusal horror movies. Pontypool, for example. It was cute enough, but not really that interesting. Not much of a story to it. My brother could probably hand me a big stack of modern horror movies, but every time I've watched a supposed gem, I have not really felt impressed.

It follows seems so lame! Just judging from the trailer, of course. I know everyone and their uncle says it's the bees knees.
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