Lady Gaga

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 12-28-2010, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PAVEMENT SAW

Lady Gaga and Kanye touring together would fuck my mind raw. Crazy visuals, mashups of two great pop albums, and two insane performers playing off of each other's energy.....

You could just play their CDs while watching an episode of Power Rangers on mute, and you'd get about the same experience.

Queen Boo · 12-29-2010, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Skaligojurah

You could just play their CDs while watching an episode of Power Rangers on mute, and you'd get about the same experience.

I'm laughing. And sigging.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 12-29-2010, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PAVEMENT SAW

I'm laughing. And sigging.

First time I've been sigged. Hopefully one step closer to being part of the Music Banter family.

thirtiesgirl · 12-30-2010, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Skaligojurah

That's exactly my problem. Gaga's entire appeal is aesthetic. As bold, and as innovative as she is with imagery, she's extremely conservative musically.

Actually, Gaga's appeal is far more than just aesthetic. If you read the links I posted, you'll see that there's far more than just boldness and innovation in Gaga's imagery. She's extremely subversive in subtle and not so subtle ways and is doing a good job of eradicating and perverting the male gaze for her own subversive and confusing purposes. She wants the viewer to question her gender (or transgender; with Gaga, nothing is ever as it seems), and she's far more in control of her own image and how she uses it than all other women pop entertainers before her.

Dotoar · 12-30-2010, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by thirtiesgirl

Actually, Gaga's appeal is far more than just aesthetic. If you read the links I posted, you'll see that there's far more than just boldness and innovation in Gaga's imagery. She's extremely subversive in subtle and not so subtle ways and is doing a good job of eradicating and perverting the male gaze for her own subversive and confusing purposes. She wants the viewer to question her gender (or transgender; with Gaga, nothing is ever as it seems), and she's far more in control of her own image and how she uses it than all other women pop entertainers before her.

But isn't all that summed up in the visual aesthetics rather than the music?

Queen Boo · 12-30-2010, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by thirtiesgirl

Actually, Gaga's appeal is far more than just aesthetic. If you read the links I posted, you'll see that there's far more than just boldness and innovation in Gaga's imagery. She's extremely subversive in subtle and not so subtle ways and is doing a good job of eradicating and perverting the male gaze for her own subversive and confusing purposes. She wants the viewer to question her gender (or transgender; with Gaga, nothing is ever as it seems), and she's far more in control of her own image and how she uses it than all other women pop entertainers before her.

Like Madonna?

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 12-30-2010, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by thirtiesgirl

Actually, Gaga's appeal is far more than just aesthetic. If you read the links I posted, you'll see that there's far more than just boldness and innovation in Gaga's imagery. She's extremely subversive in subtle and not so subtle ways and is doing a good job of eradicating and perverting the male gaze for her own subversive and confusing purposes. She wants the viewer to question her gender (or transgender; with Gaga, nothing is ever as it seems), and she's far more in control of her own image and how she uses it than all other women pop entertainers before her.

Yes, and we sit and analyze the artistic value of her imagery because she went to art school. A band like GWAR throws together random goofy sexual, and violent imagery, and we consider them a joke. Simply because they don't reference to how much they love David Bowie, and Andy Warhol we don't consider them artists.

I'm not buying it. Lady Gaga is a con artist of the highest caliber.

Mrd00d · 12-30-2010, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dotoar

But isn't all that summed up in the visual aesthetics rather than the music?

He's saying it's also a big part of the lyrics, I believe. I'm just spectating here, though.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 12-30-2010, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrd00d

He's saying it's also a big part of the lyrics, I believe. I'm just spectating here, though.

I would say it's a big part of the compensation. However, I'd like to point out the imagery is brilliant sometimes. Her lyrics are just basically cheap innuendo, and not particularly clever innuendo at that. Then again Lady Gaga tends to rely on the illusion of irony by intentionally not being clever often.

Queen Boo · 12-30-2010, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Skaligojurah

Yes, and we sit and analyze the artistic value of her imagery because she went to art school. A band like GWAR throws together random goofy sexual, and violent imagery, and we consider them a joke. Simply because they don't reference to how much they love David Bowie, and Andy Warhol we don't consider them artists.

GWAR? Are you fucking kidding me? The band that writes songs about daterape and golden showers?
Have you ever heard a Lady Gaga song?

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