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View Poll Results: Best Gaga Album...?!?!
The Fame 5 41.67%
The Fame Monster 3 25.00%
Born This Way 4 33.33%
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Old 09-12-2010, 11:05 PM   #1631 (permalink)
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Congratulations are in order, I'm actually glad for her
She won eight VMA's!

I liked how she brought the service-members who were fired for their sexuality and acknowledged their struggle in her acceptance speech. The snippet of her upcoming track, "Born This Way" was a total surprise. I'm hoping this means she won't wait till next year to release the next album.
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Old 09-12-2010, 11:13 PM   #1632 (permalink)
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She won eight VMA's!

I liked how she brought the service-members who were fired for their sexuality and acknowledged their struggle in her acceptance speech. The snippet of her upcoming track, "Born This Way" was a total surprise. I'm hoping this means she won't wait till next year to release the next album.
Yay!! The title of the album is going to be released at New Years, whomp wom, means it will be next year it's released.
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Old 09-12-2010, 11:22 PM   #1633 (permalink)
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Yay!! The title of the album is going to be released at New Years, whomp wom, means it will be next year it's released.
She said her new record was titled "Born This Way." I'm not sure if by record she meant her next single, or next album. She seems to use the terms interchangeably.

Edit: Her next album is titled "Born This Way."

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Old 09-13-2010, 07:24 AM   #1634 (permalink)
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Man... She may deserve those awards, but to my mind only history can offer a true assessment of a pop artist's capabilities.
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Old 09-13-2010, 10:09 AM   #1635 (permalink)
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Money doesn't make you happy or normal.......Yeah, no doubt in my mind that you can grow up rich and still be the awkward adolescent Gaga was. You just get better Christmas gifts.



Janis Joplin was teased mercilessly in childhood and adolescense, had no self-esteem, abused drugs, and eventually killed herself. Tina Turner spent the top of her career in an abusive relationship with a man that treated her like crap. Awesome performers. Not people you want to model your life after....
Has this dude ever seen her perform? She's got immense passion.
Good points, I agree. The journalist definitely had an agenda against GaGa, and she drew some sloppy conclusions form her own bias, as you pointed out.
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Old 09-13-2010, 10:41 AM   #1636 (permalink)
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I don't dislike Gaga. I rather love her. I'm fed up with her music though (my own fault) But I wholey agree with that article.
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Old 09-13-2010, 06:30 PM   #1637 (permalink)
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She won eight VMA's!

I liked how she brought the service-members who were fired for their sexuality and acknowledged their struggle in her acceptance speech. The snippet of her upcoming track, "Born This Way" was a total surprise. I'm hoping this means she won't wait till next year to release the next album.
I know And I think she deserves it, she's definitely one of the better modern mainstream pop singers presently.
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Old 09-14-2010, 01:32 AM   #1638 (permalink)
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I guess my take on GaGa amounts to a couple of points. I think that she is hard not to like, because she throws everything but the kitchen sink into her act, so someone will always be able to find something to enjoy in every one of her offerings.

On another level, she's giving people what they want, and shamelessly so. That might turn a few people off, but really, you have to consider what the turnoff is. It's not revulsion with GaGa herself. It's the realization that this presentation is what our culture amounts to. I agree she is one of the best singers we have, and a flamboyant performer, too. At the same time, I find myself hoping, more often than not, that we'll be able to do better in the future.
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Old 09-14-2010, 08:33 AM   #1639 (permalink)
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Somebody made a really good point about Gaga.
That she doesn't need people to like her, she just wants people to talk about her.
Which is what everyone is doing.
What do you guys think about this?
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Watch her performances of Speechless on her tour, it's not rare for her to cry during the song. Also, her performance of "Brown Eyes" on Jonathan Ross' show was heartbreaking. Her videos are very cold, and some of her performances are, though she has her very vulnerable moments.
This isn't a comment against you, Consolator; I'm just musing out loud about the topic of Lady Gaga seeming cold to some people:

I wonder if people sometimes expect a female performer to be more vulnerable than a male performer, and hold it against her if she *doesn't* seem vulnerable. I've never heard anyone say of a male performer, "Oh, he doesn't tear up! He must not be in touch with his emotions. He is cold," and disliking him for that.

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she's giving people what they want, and shamelessly so. That might turn a few people off, but really, you have to consider what the turnoff is. It's not revulsion with GaGa herself. It's the realization that this presentation is what our culture amounts to. I agree she is one of the best singers we have, and a flamboyant performer, too. At the same time, I find myself hoping, more often than not, that we'll be able to do better in the future.
Yes, I agree with what you say, マイケル : Lady Gaga's ostentatious emphasis on *things* (clothing, etc.) rather than mainly on the music alone may make us face something we don't like about our culture: its shallow consumerism.

That being said, one of my favorite songs and videos was always Madonna's Material Girl, and I didn't mind its shallow consumerism message at all, though I assume the song was meant to be ironic rather than an endorsement of materialism. I wonder to what extent Lady Gaga's outfits and personas are intended in the same way. Or maybe she is just having fun thinking up and appreciating new and odd things!

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Somebody made a really good point about Gaga.
That she doesn't need people to like her, she just wants people to talk about her.
Which is what everyone is doing.
What do you guys think about this?
I agree, AwwSugar: I think she doesn't need people to like her. I don't think she is concerned so much if she appears sexy, for example. I feel a lot of her clothing isn't intended to be sexual so much as provocative and startling. I assume she *does* want people to like her music, though.

And I think of course she wants people to talk about her; this increases interest in her music, her shows.
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