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Old 06-12-2010, 03:25 PM   #1251 (permalink)
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Well, if it's such a common thing, why is it only a problem for you when it comes to GaGa? Why are you singling out poor little Stefani? You may as well launch an attack on Björk and The Beatles, if you're trying to discredit people for working with producers and other people.
I am mentioning Lady Gaga because we are in a Lady Gaga thread. I did not ever write that it was a problem. Neither am I trying to discredit people for doing it. What I know about her, I read on wikipedia.

I think you're distorting the meaning of my posts. You do strike me as getting a bit defensive ..
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Old 06-12-2010, 03:33 PM   #1252 (permalink)
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I am mentioning Lady Gaga because we are in a Lady Gaga thread. I did not ever write that it was a problem. Neither am I trying to discredit people for doing it. What I know about her, I read on wikipedia.

I think you're distorting the meaning of my posts. You do strike me as getting a bit defensive ..
Well, you did call me naive. And you inferred that because she uses producers, she's a puppet, which strikes me as somewhat discrediting.

It just seems to me that because Lady G is arguably the biggest pop star on the planet at the moment, people feel the need to counter-attack. She's one of the exceptions in pop - she's not manufactured, and she writes and co-produces all her own songs, and people don't seem to be able to accept this.

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Old 06-12-2010, 03:43 PM   #1253 (permalink)
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Meh, why does it matter?

I personally could care less, I just really admire her as a performer, especially because of how she is with her fans. She does have a spectacular voice though, and if Again Again is her only song credit on the Fame, that's still a ****ing great song.
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Meh, why does it matter?

I personally could care less, I just really admire her as a performer, especially because of how she is with her fans. She does have a spectacular voice though, and if Again Again is her only song credit on the Fame, that's still a ****ing great song.
She has a song credit for every song, just Again Again is the only song where she is solely credited. From The Fame anyway. Teeth and Speechless are also credited to her alone from FM.

Her performances are a bit hit and miss for me. I heard she's really nice to her fans though.
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Old 06-12-2010, 03:50 PM   #1255 (permalink)
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Performer. Yes.
But showing up to a baseball game in a studded bikini and looking like a trailer-park meth addict is performing nothing but a sad publicity stunt.

I sense an Amy Winehouse style trajectory in the making. Not that I care, but I hope she at least keeps her stunts in the music venue where people actually pay to go see it instead of having to be exposed to it in daily life.
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Old 06-12-2010, 05:30 PM   #1256 (permalink)
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Lady Gaga like so many famous artists have a lot of help in the songwriting department (as well as everything else which leads to the final product). As an example, on wikipedia, there's only one song credited to her alone on her debut, which is "Again Again".

One of the guys helping her is RedOne :
My comment regarding my respect for her as an artist was pretty vague - for me, playing some of her songs, hitting the correct notes vocally whilst trying to play the piano can be a bit of a challenge to start with, so for her to be able to sing and perform as she does, does show some talent. And as much as she's part of a package (show me a talented pop star that isn't!) she still has some input into what she's doing, whether it's in her music or god-awful bloody costumes.

Further than that, she can join Winehouse in St Lucia or wherever the hell she is now for all I care
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Old 06-13-2010, 12:34 AM   #1257 (permalink)
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Performer. Yes.
But showing up to a baseball game in a studded bikini and looking like a trailer-park meth addict is performing nothing but a sad publicity stunt.

I sense an Amy Winehouse style trajectory in the making. Not that I care, but I hope she at least keeps her stunts in the music venue where people actually pay to go see it instead of having to be exposed to it in daily life.
Any publicity is good publicity right?
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I don't mean to discredit Gaga. She is a pianist and she writes all her sh*t which is a super rarity among pop divas. She should get a lyricist though, seriously. And I don't like her voice but she does have chops in the singing department.

I just don't think that she deserves to be called a genius. Regardless of how well crafted it is, in the end, it's still night club music.

Goldfrapp is someone who for me does that kinda pop music way way way better. I mean that chick can play a theremin with her vagina. Now THAT is talent.

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Any publicity is good publicity right?
I think that's a myth. Certain kinds of publicity really can ruin you.

Like when Michael Richards started ranting about lynching black people, that obviously wasnt good publicity because he'll probably never get serious work again.
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I think that's a myth. Certain kinds of publicity really can ruin you.

Like when Michael Richards started ranting about lynching black people, that obviously wasnt good publicity because he'll probably never get serious work again.
I agree that it's a myth in cases of extreme bad publicity, but in this case, look at the discussion GaGa caused. Freelance said it even made the news, so that's pretty much free promotion. It might annoy some people, but it's not on the level of, say, Chris Brown giving Rihanna a vampiric kiss, which was fatalistic for his career.
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Lady GaGa is just a Todd Rundgren want-to-be, she even raided his wardrobe.

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