Civic Depreciator

Is this an attack or a man looking for information? The Beach Boys aren't urban. To give you a sample, these artists are urban: Babyface, Anita Baker, Boyz II Men, Toni Braxton, Mariah Carey, Lauryn Hill, Whitney Houston, Janet Jackson, Michael Jackson, R. Kelly, New Edition, Prince, Smokey Robinson, Sade, TLC, Stevie Wonder, and Xavier.

Pop-soul is soul music that has been polished and is commercially viable. The vocals are still raw, but the material and sound fit on the radio. Motown was a pioneer of this style. It eventually morphed into disco in the 70's. Some example artists are The Impressions, The Jackson 5, Chuck Jackson, Major Lance, Barbara Lewis, The Supremes, The Temptations, Dionne Warwick, and Stevie Wonder.

sleepy jack

Surely R. Kelly is I pee on underage girls pop?

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jackhammer

Sade takes influence from Jazz, Soul and Funk. Very similar to Bacharach, although the musical themes are far more pronounced than Bacharach, the same principle was adopted re: 3 minute songs, accessible musical framework and catchy hooks. Christ it's urban NOT pop!Prince is as far removed from urban as can be, although people love to give tenuous links. He takes inspiration from funk and soul which was a by product of the Blues and thus Prince is a Rock musician.

R.Kelly is urban too? what exactly does urban mean? Punk could be classed as Urban if we want to get anal about this schizz.

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Civic Depreciator

Didn't you just ask me what urban music is? So who are you to say who is an urban artist and who isn't? Prince is a rock artist. But he plays an urban style. He's also a funk artist, but not a soul artist. People can play styles of certain genres while being a part of a different genre. Look at Frank Zappa. He played fusion, a style of jazz. But no one considers him a jazz musician. He is clearly a rock musician.

Yes, R. Kelly is urban as well. Urban was a term for r&b/soul music of the 1980's and 90's but has continued on in some ways. Urban music isn't as gritty as soul, it's more slick. It has evolved since the 1980's, although there is still adult contemporary music that is urban.

jackhammer

Fusion is not a style of Jazz. Fusion means a joining of two disparate elements.

Who am I to say what is urban? The same person as you-no one.

Urban is a lazy catch all for soul/funk influenced music that is made for a commercial ideal. Therefore, I consider it musically redundant. This all stems from you calling ABBA a rock band and me disagreeing. Why did'nt u put it in the rock section then if they are a Rock band?

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Civic Depreciator

I've notice that you prefer the literal meanings of words used in music over the meanings that are represented in music. Fusion is a style of jazz.

Because they're a pop band as well, and pop is narrowed down more than rock, considering it's a style of rock. This all goes back to that thread I was posting in earlier about having multiple forums for different styles of rock.

jackhammer

Fusion is Fusion, no matter how you align it.

The word Fusion is already described by myself and is correct.

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Civic Depreciator

Fusion was originally a mixture of jazz improvisation with the power and rhythms of rock. In the mid-70's, it became a combination of jazz, easy-listening pop music, and light r&b.

Rainard Jalen

I personally always saw ABBA as Scandinavian black metal.

mr dave

the greatest thing about abba is when gibby haynes (from the butthole surfers) drunkely sings 'dancing queen' for johnny depp's P album.

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