The definitive Paul Weller thread

[jackhammer]

I have only given 22 dreams a single listen which should be rectified. Stanley Road is usually held up as the pinnacle and quite rightly so. I have to say that i'm not a huge fan of The Jam. I like them but I rarely have a blast although 'News Of The World' and 'Funeral Pyre' are top top tunes. As RT rightly says, he doesn't get the respect he deserves. He's such a great songwriter just never particulary cool enough for younger fans and a little too off mainstream for the middle of the road fans.

[right-track]

Originally Posted by jackhammer

just never particulary cool enough for younger fans

On the contrary...he's too cool for younger fans.

[Mirrorball95]

Originally Posted by right-track

thread merged.

Nice post Mirrorball95.

**** me man I went to all that trouble just to find there was already another post. .....
Also I didnt think people would find it that good as I basically just had a rant for about 10 mins.

Originally Posted by zekethefreak

I gotta say, of the three incarnations of Paul Weller, the Style Council is by far my favorite. I have owned solo albums, and there was some quality tunes, I own some of The Jam on vinyl, and enjoy it from time to time, but I really feel like Paul's true virtuosity came with The Style Council. If you listen to "My Ever Changing Moods", you hear so many different musical styles. With The Jam, mostly one style...good, yes... but not much variety. The same goes for most of the solo stuff that I've heard (his first couple solo albums). There was a chemistry found between Paul and Mick Talbot, not to mention the drum prodigy Steve White. You want some good Acid Jazz, check out Talbot and White's stuff...

Cool man you have taste, dont you like his solo stuff though? I rank it amongst the best stuff hes done. Also the key word is 'variety' when it comes to ranking the Style Council higher than the Jam. Not many artists get better as their careers go on.

[Mirrorball95]

Originally Posted by jackhammer

I have only given 22 dreams a single listen which should be rectified. Stanley Road is usually held up as the pinnacle and quite rightly so. I have to say that i'm not a huge fan of The Jam. I like them but I rarely have a blast although 'News Of The World' and 'Funeral Pyre' are top top tunes. As RT rightly says, he doesn't get the respect he deserves. He's such a great songwriter just never particulary cool enough for younger fans and a little too off mainstream for the middle of the road fans.

Yeah 22 Dreams is definitely a grower but to me the albums that grow on you are the best (IMO). As for him not being 'cool enough' for younger fans. I know quite a few people my age who are into Paul Weller. + Also it shouldnt be to do with how 'cool' he is as his music is immense and thats all that matters (IMO).

Originally Posted by right-track

On the contrary...he's too cool for younger fans.

Well I dont really think its about how 'cool' he is. If thats the case then they cant be into music in the first place. + He has been around for a while and could win new fans of any age (although I highly doubt my brother will start listning to him anytime soon). I hate how older people say we all listen to ****e/dont know what real music is. I agree to a certain extent there are the clowns who have the happy hardcore blaring out there cars but I aint certainly aint one o them lol. Also sometimes I wish I was older so I could have lived through all the great decades of music but TBH I think I was born in the perfect generation as everything is so accessible now especially with the internet. I wouldnt have been able to get into around 90% of the artists ive gotten into if it wasnt for amazon marketplace and their cheap prices.

ALSO CHECK OUT THIS CRACKING COVER OF NEILS YOUNG'S OHIO LIVE AT HIS COMEBACK GIG AT GLASTONBURY 1994. IF YOUVE HEARD THE ORIGINAL YOU WILL SEE HOW HE HAS MADE IT HIS OWN HERE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CIvKCvAvCE

[right-track]

Originally Posted by Mirrorball95

Well I dont really think its about how 'cool' he is. If thats the case then they cant be into music in the first place.

My comment was a tongue in cheek reply to jackhammer.
What I was implying, was that his music isn't rated as highly as it shoud be among the younger generation. When I see bands like The Clash and later The Smiths getting a new lease of life, I feel it's unfair that The Jam haven't had the same recognition.
Then again that would only happen if they suddenly become 'retro cool' with the teens...which wouldn't do them justice.

Originally Posted by Mirrorball95

I hate how older people say we all listen to ****e/dont know what real music is... Also sometimes I wish I was older so I could have lived through all the great decades of music

That's because older people have the experience of the moment to reflect on in later years.
Also. you are living in a time of great music already...maybe you haven't realised this yet, I don't know.
Maybe you'll only appreciate whats under your nose in later years.
I know I did with a lot of bands that took me decades to rediscover after only scratching the surface of artists at the time.

I've got a feeling you'll be alright...you seem to have taste and a mind of your own, unlike the happy hardcore sheep you mentioned.

[marazico]

Weller for me is the UK's finest songwriter that came after the 60's & 70's