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Alo 04-15-2007 11:01 AM

What you describe is mostly referred to as indie-pop.

SuperInfinity 04-15-2007 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen (Post 358282)
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Originally Posted by Ashlee Simpson Phanatik
Pop is just like basic lyrical content that's repetitive with funky catchy melodies in it. Ashlee Simpson is tha best Pop/Rock Avril is dope 2.

Pop is just underated by sum folk.
they think its 2 girlie or that's just girl pop singers anyway.
But I think their pretty awesome!

You're understanding of what pop actually is is pretty narrow minded.

What pop "actually is" is described on wikipedia and in various dictionaries and she is pretty much dead on in what she said. If you want to define pop as being something else... that's fine. But for the rest of us, that's not pop.

CAPTAIN CAVEMAN 04-15-2007 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashlee Simpson Phanatik
Well whateva, that's what think when I listen 2 it anyway.
and guys that sing pop suck. only the ladies are any good.
guys should just rap only

I don't even like any pop music, but you sicken me.

Rainard Jalen 04-16-2007 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperInfinity (Post 358999)
What pop "actually is" is described on wikipedia and in various dictionaries and she is pretty much dead on in what she said. If you want to define pop as being something else... that's fine. But for the rest of us, that's not pop.

No. What she described is one sub-genre of pop. The fact is, there are loads and loads of varieties of pop music. Pop could be extended to include things like dream-pop, noise-pop, even wildly experimental bordering-on-avant-garde stuff by bands like Deerhoof. The full range of indie and alternative pop, in fact, can equally be classified as pop. Not just bubblegum, urban and so forth.

With that said, it is true that pleasant melodies are usually important to pop music. But that the lyrical content must be basic is nonsense. Perhaps most chart pop these days, yes. But not pop in all its shapes and forms. And "catchy melodies" isn't really much of a definition, is it. 90%+ of all music strives to have memorable melodies, even a lot of metal.

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-16-2007 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperInfinity (Post 358999)
What pop "actually is" is described on wikipedia and in various dictionaries and she is pretty much dead on in what she said. If you want to define pop as being something else... that's fine. But for the rest of us, that's not pop.

the rest of us? :laughing:

I prefer not to rely on wikipedia or what dictionaries say. I prefer to , you know actually use my ears when it comes to making judgement on music.

Rainard Jalen 04-16-2007 05:28 PM

lol, exactly. The idea that you can somehow define an entire genre of music, especially something as complex a notion as "pop", in a mere dictionary entry, is ludicrous!

Kevorkian Logic 04-16-2007 06:22 PM

I take the view if it sounds good and is musically competent, it's good music. It doesn't matter what genre it is, but that's just me.


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