Daughters - You Won't Get What You Want

windsock · 11-01-2018, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Zhanteimi

I think Marcus Mumford writes profound lyrics, actually, but you have to have ears to understand them.

Sounds like a load of "to be fair, you have to have a fairly high IQ" hooplah to me.

Also it seems to me that you're excising Daughters simply cause of their edginess.

Zhanteimi · 11-01-2018, 08:40 PM

I didn't mean it that way. It's not about IQ at all. His lyrics are not even close to erudite. The "have ears to hear" line references not having a heart of stone.

windsock · 11-01-2018, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zhanteimi

I didn't mean it that way. It's not about IQ at all. His lyrics are not even close to erudite. The "have ears to hear" line references not having a heart of stone.

When I reference the "IQ" bit the purpose of it is that you're claiming your brand of music essentially has superiority over another for superficial and subjective reasons. I believe it's a misguided approach.

Zhanteimi · 11-01-2018, 08:43 PM

Anyway, back to Daughters!

windsock · 11-01-2018, 08:46 PM

I never keep my back to my daughters. Who knows what they could be up to?

~~MicShazam~~ · 11-02-2018, 01:41 PM

OMG the music sounds so much like Dir En Grey. Love it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSl4w6PXVbY

~~MicShazam~~ · 11-02-2018, 01:53 PM

4/5

Quite like it.

#Zhanteimiiswrong

I mean there's several moments here that are straight up gorgeous. It's like Dir En Grey + Depeche Mode + I don't know, some noise rock band...

**Exo** · 11-02-2018, 02:02 PM

You're not obligated to like this album but I would just argue that in no way was this supposed to be anything but ugly. It's like saying Swans is cool but I wish it was more upbeat and positive. Not the point of it really.

windsock · 11-02-2018, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo

You're not obligated to like this album but I would just argue that in no way was this supposed to be anything but ugly. It's like saying Swans is cool but I wish it was more upbeat and positive. Not the point of it really.

Good way of phrasing it.

But I still don't think this beats Crumbling as AOTY but I also disagree with /mu/ chuckle****s who think people think that it is are doing it just because Fantano told them to is ridiculous. It's a damn fine piece of work and the best the band's ever done.

**Frownland** · 11-02-2018, 02:12 PM

Their s/t is still my favourite, but I'm glad that they're evolving and not trying to mimic their past selves.

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Originally Posted by Exo

You're not obligated to like this album but I would just argue that in no way was this supposed to be anything but ugly. It's like saying Swans is cool but I wish it was more upbeat and positive. Not the point of it really.

I think that the awesomeness (as in inspiring literal awe) of an uncompromising atmosphere like on this album is somewhat adjacent to beauty though.

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11-01-2018, 08:40 PM	#32 (permalink)
Zhanteimi Mord Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Tokyo Posts: 4,873	I didn't mean it that way. It's not about IQ at all. His lyrics are not even close to erudite. The "have ears to hear" line references not having a heart of stone. __________________ Zhanteimi LetsTalkMusic

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Zhanteimi Mord Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Tokyo Posts: 4,873	Anyway, back to Daughters! __________________ Zhanteimi LetsTalkMusic

11-02-2018, 02:02 PM	#38 (permalink)
Exo All day jazz and biscuits Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 7,354	You're not obligated to like this album but I would just argue that in no way was this supposed to be anything but ugly. It's like saying Swans is cool but I wish it was more upbeat and positive. Not the point of it really. __________________ LastFM SUPREME POO BAH MODERATOR EXTRAORDINAIRE

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~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,634	OMG the music sounds so much like Dir En Grey. Love it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSl4w6PXVbY

11-02-2018, 01:53 PM	#37 (permalink)
~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,634	4/5 Quite like it. #Zhanteimiiswrong I mean there's several moments here that are straight up gorgeous. It's like Dir En Grey + Depeche Mode + I don't know, some noise rock band...