Eminem - Revival

[Lucem Ferre]

Originally Posted by Frownland

These are basically the definitions that I've been using and they're two extremely different things. I can elaborate if you need me to.

And you don't think that's cherry picking compared to these two?

frequently encountered or widely accepted

the judgment arrived at by most of those concerned

[Lucem Ferre]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Bolded: It's more of a reason for me to not give much credit to popularity. And I'm better than most people. Most people are dumb as ****. i think we can agree on that.



Nah **** em

Yeah, but that's assuming you need a level of intelligence to appreciate art. You don't. And it's not how you put it, you said it in a much more objective way.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

And you don't think that's cherry picking compared to these two?

frequently encountered or widely accepted

the judgment arrived at by most of those concerned

Popularity is just popularity, consensus is consensus on x. If you're going to make an *masturbates* "objective" argument on music, then use the consensuses on whatever you think is good about the music.

Seriously the dumbest argument I've ever had on MB and I once had a ten page long argument about socks.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

Yeah, but that's assuming you need a level of intelligence to appreciate art. You don't. And it's not how you put it, you said it in a much more objective way.

What? Nigga learn to infer. I'm just better.

[Lucem Ferre]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Popularity is just popularity, consensus is consensus on x. If you're going to make an *masturbates* "objective" argument on music, then use the consensuses on whatever you think is good about the music.

Seriously the dumbest argument I've ever had on MB and I once had a ten page long argument about socks.

That's not anything.

Popularity is the consensus on how good something is. If something has the consensus on being good, then the popular opinion is that it's good. Music is not popular with out the consensus of it being good. There is music that seems popular, Nickelback, but is not widely accepted or have the consensus of being good. It's the illusion of being popular.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

That's not anything.

Popularity is the consensus on how good something is. If something has the consensus on being good, then the popular opinion is that it's good. Music is not popular with out the consensus of it being good. There is music that seems popular, Nickelback, but is not widely accepted or have the consensus of being good. It's the illusion of being popular.

Aaaaaaaaaand that's not consistent enough to be used as a gauge for quality......

[Lucem Ferre]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Aaaaaaaaaand that's not consistent enough to be used as a gauge for quality......

It is when it's been a consistent opinion, like with Eminem. Unless you can give a reason why not with out dismissing a group of people because you don't think they are as good at appreciating music as you.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

It is when it's been a consistent opinion

You mean a consensus? and what about

[Lucem Ferre]

Originally Posted by elphenor

just from wikipedia

"Nickelback is one of the most commercially successful Canadian groups, having sold more than 50 million albums worldwide and ranking as the eleventh best-selling music act, and the second best-selling foreign act in the U.S. of the 2000s, behind The Beatles."

something to consider

And that doesn't mean they are popular when the general opinion is that they are ****. There are so many other factors that go with album sales, and I already said album sales don't make you popular, keep up.

[Lucem Ferre]

Originally Posted by Frownland

You mean a consensus? and what about

The consensus isn't always consistent. I don't know why you keep redefining the word, can't you take an L gracefully? God, I admit when I'm full of ****, nothing wrong with being wrong every once in a while.