Eminem - Revival

[Cuthbert]

Originally Posted by Frownland

He's a little better than Tupac and generally rated lower.

Not sure about that.

Not sure about the first bit either tbh.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Man like Monkey

Not sure about that.

Not sure about the first bit either tbh.

I prefer his harder style and think Tupac's annoying. Both are 3/10 at best.

[Ol’ Qwerty Bastard]

i never heard people say jay is the best rapper of all time

frequently hear it about em

[Maajo]

Originally Posted by Frownland

He thought that they were vapid and bad.

I can see his point.

That's fine I guess, but hopefully you can see why we're laughing at you for treating popularity as a barometer for quality if it happens again.

[Cuthbert]

Originally Posted by Qwertyy

i never heard people say jay is the best rapper of all time

frequently hear it about em

You've never heard anyone say Jay-Z is the greatest rapper of all time?

That is mental I don't believe that at all. The idea he is #1 is pretty common partly down to Jay-Z pushing it himself. Plenty of rappers have said it, plenty of publications have ranked him as #1, lots of people I know who don't really follow Hip-Hop consider him #1 as well.

[Ol’ Qwerty Bastard]

i can promise you in my entire life i have not heard that said even once

[Maajo]

Originally Posted by Man like Monkey

You've never heard anyone say Jay-Z is the greatest rapper of all time?

That is mental I don't believe that at all. The idea he is #1 is pretty common partly down to Jay-Z pushing it himself. Plenty of rappers have said it, plenty of publications have ranked him as #1, lots of people I know who don't really follow Hip-Hop consider him #1 as well.

Yup, I've heard it or at least heard that he's in the discussion. He's very important to the history of hip-hop, and he's released some of the most acclaimed albums of the genre, so I can see their point even though I've never really cared too much for his music.

[Cuthbert]

Originally Posted by Qwertyy

i can promise you in my entire life i have not heard that said even once

That's strange then.

3:16 - https://youtu.be/MjCunLrX8mQ

Was only watching that like a week ago.

List MTV did some years ago - https://genius.com/discussions/4391-...cs-of-all-time

[Frownland]

Tupac gets a lot of cred from basic bitch sources and more appropriate sources. Much higher rated and he died before he had a chance to lose fans over time.

[Cuthbert]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Tupac gets a lot of cred from basic bitch sources and more appropriate sources. Much higher rated and he died before he had a chance to lose fans over time.

Again, not sure I agree with that. Maybe within some Hip-Hop circles but even then, I don't know. The Source ranked Jay-Z over 2Pac (at number 4, Pac was 5. 1, 2 and 3 were Rakim, Nas & Biggie), among rappers themselves, it's pretty even as far as I can tell and both would be at the top.

Both of them are overrated (for different reasons) and not top 20 for me anyway.