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newgadgetlover 06-24-2013 02:53 PM

jcole-Born Sinner
 
jcole-Born Sinner

newgadgetlover 06-24-2013 02:59 PM

my mistake
 
i was going to attach a poll..but failed...ihope i followed the instruction
what do you guys think about this album?

14232949 06-24-2013 04:02 PM

I felt Cole was trying far too hard to convince us he was capable of making a classic album. He flip flops his style too much on this album, he's trying to darken up his act in places and seem more colder and less emotional then on the next track he'll go back to his nice guy role.
I'm not sure Cole knew himself what entirely he was trying to create here. I do feel bad for him, the guy's talented and I really enjoyed his work up until Born Sinner. But I just feel he tried to step into boots he wasn't ready to fill.
The fact that he thought he could compete with Kanye by bringing his album release date forward and then getting completely blown out the water just proves he's not ready to make the classic album he so desperately longs to create.

newgadgetlover 06-24-2013 07:26 PM

I agree
 
wow you very critical.i still love jcole tho!

14232949 06-24-2013 07:30 PM

I'm a Cole fan. I just feel the record tried to be something it wasn't capable of being.

djchameleon 06-24-2013 07:43 PM

There were only two tracks that stood out and didn't really work with the overall theme of the album.

Power Trip and Crooked Smile.

Which other ones are you talking about?

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Originally Posted by Mankycaaant (Post 1335911)
The fact that he thought he could compete with Kanye by bringing his album release date forward and then getting completely blown out the water just proves he's not ready to make the classic album he so desperately longs to create.

He didn't get completely blown out of the water. He made 30k less copies than Kanye which is pretty damn close!!

TheUnusualMusical 08-09-2013 04:01 PM

Let Nas Down is the best song on the album...overall i was disappointed by it, still think the mixtapes he did before he got a major deal was his best work

14232949 08-09-2013 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1335950)


He didn't get completely blown out of the water. He made 30k less copies than Kanye which is pretty damn close!!

I wasn't talking in terms of sales. I was talking in terms of the product that was released. Cole's latest was flat and uninspired. Yeezus ventured into uncharted territory and created a completely new type of hip-hop album. Revolutionary even.
Cole's album is instantly forgettable and it doesn't even highlight what he is capable of. It's dumbed down and lacking in substance without even retaining any pop value as most of the time it's just lukewarm and generic.
From the looped Biggie vocals on the opening track, I knew Cole was trying to forcefeed us the notion he had finally created a classic, in trying too hard to take aspects from other 'classic' albums and throw it into his product he just created a contrived and unfocused piece. This is why his mood flip-flops so much in the album, there's no focus. No direction.
His EP Truly Yours 2 which dropped a month or two previous to Born Sinner was much better than this album overall, in my opinion.

I like Cole and some tracks have definitely grown on me especially She Knows, but he can do much much better than Born Sinner.

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Originally Posted by TheUnusualMusical (Post 1355330)
Let Nas Down is the best song on the album...overall i was disappointed by it, still think the mixtapes he did before he got a major deal was his best work

Disagreed with that being the best track. Agreed with your other point. He's lost his individuality somewhat in an attempt to sound more like everybody else. It's sad really because we've seen glimpses that would indicate Cole could be great if he applied himself correctly.


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