Shock rap is fine, Tyler is just crap at it.

Who's so much better then?

I don't really feel like going through every "shocking" rap group/artist ever to be honest, but there are probably hundreds who use shocking lyrics in a more successful way.

You're not really proving much. Even outside of "shock" (which I care least about) Tyler is a solid rapper.

You are adding your own conclusions to my statement. I think he is crap at being "shocking" because he isn't convincing in any way. He is a good rapper though, I wouldn't doubt that.

Well I'd personally much rather he be a better rapper than a convincing boogyman.

Your tone suggests we don't agree for some reason.

Probably. I am a little confused as to why you'd mention how awful a shock rapper he is if you didn't have a problem with him.

I do have a problem with him. But that doesn't mean I think he is bad. He just doesn't make great music, and what he raps about is lame. But he is certainly talented and if he put his mind into it, he could make an outstanding album if he stripped away all the nonsense.

I agree, even though I don't think what he raps about is that lame.