When Odd Future showed up on Jimmy Fallon , I felt like they were officially mainstream they were also at a MTV awards show.

They aren't radio friendly but I'm pretty sure you'll see Tyler feature up with some mainstream artists in the near future.

Also, to help their whole "We're not homophobic" thing, isn't Syd a lesbian or something?

i voted great. this was definitely a big step up from Bastard production wise, and even if some of the lyrics falter, there's definitely some memorable verses to be had on here. that, and i loved how much Tyler really bares all as well as the progression of the concept the first, especially at the end where


overall, i'd say this is a real grower. it might take some time for it to stick, but when it does, it's a really memorable release, especially for hip-hop.

and no i wouldn't call them mainstream, not with how their rhymes and production is. and with how tight knit they are as a collective, i doubt that they'd so easily sign on to feature on songs with people they aren't already cool with.

frank ocean is cool

they are weird though

when did it become socially acceptable to say you rape women

here we go again.....

Can we have a separate thread for the "OMG Tyler is so offensive!" talk instead of spreading it all over the place.

I actually really like this album. A lot of people are complaining about how crappy the production is, but the lo-fi used sounds pretty good to me and fits his lyrics well. I thought it was okay at first, but then it grew on me. Definatley one of the best 2011 has to offer so far.

After finally listening, i consider this an overall upgrade from Bastard. While Bastard had it strengths, it felt a little repeated to me after awhile, but here i find the ideas touched on before (rape kill hate) put into fresher ways. However, there were times where Tyler should have just stopped [all the slack on Radicals, Fish got old quick, Analog, the slightly odd placement of AU79, Goblin especially didn't bring the strength of Bastard (the tracks, i mean, but Tyler is even aware of this)]. Overall though, i was thoroughly impressed and found it an upgrade from his previous release. I love that the storyline started to shine through by the middle of the album, too. My highlights would be:

Transylvania
Yonkers
Window
She

BTW: I rated great for the reasons above. Even the worst moments weren't awful, just unnecessary.