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thorntond 12-23-2018 12:13 PM

Can anyone tell me who is in this photo?
 
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Hello! This is my first post on this forum.

Can anyone tell me who it is in the photos below?

The taller guy on the left is the boxer Sugar Ray Robinson. I recognise the guy on the right but I just can't put a name to the face and it's really annoying me!!

Thanks

BlackPolkaDot 12-23-2018 12:26 PM

Is that Nat King Cole?

thorntond 12-23-2018 12:29 PM

Thanks for your response but it isn't Nat King Cole.

The taller guy is Sugar Ray Robinson but I'm trying to find out who the shorter guy is.

BlackPolkaDot 12-23-2018 12:37 PM

The guy on the right isn't Nat King Cole? I thought for sure he was.

thorntond 12-23-2018 12:38 PM

The taller guy, Sugar Ray Robinson, looks more like Nat King Cole than the shorter guy does but I don't know who the shorter guy is.

rostasi 12-23-2018 01:23 PM

That's the great Lloyd Price.

thorntond 12-23-2018 01:37 PM

Thanks for your message but I don't think it's Lloyd Price.

Firstly, I don't think it looks enough like Lloyd Price and also this is from the mid-50's and Lloyd Price was only in his early 20's then and the guy with Robinson is older than that.

Neapolitan 12-23-2018 06:58 PM

Charlie Fuqua and Hoppy Jones?

The Batlord 12-23-2018 07:11 PM

Nelson Mandela?

Akai 12-23-2018 07:14 PM

Carlton Banks?

thorntond 12-23-2018 07:57 PM

Serious suggestions please?

The Batlord 12-23-2018 08:05 PM

Don't run with scissors.

thorntond 12-23-2018 08:30 PM

Hilarious.

windsock 12-23-2018 09:27 PM

It looks like it's from Ed Sullivan. Maybe snoop around the episodes he was in?

Neapolitan 12-23-2018 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by windsock (Post 2027250)
It looks like it's from Ed Sullivan. Maybe snoop around the episodes he was in?

Ed Sullivan was Irish, imho they look African American.

Neapolitan 12-23-2018 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by thorntond (Post 2027144)
Thanks for your response but it isn't Nat King Cole.

The taller guy is Sugar Ray Robinson but I'm trying to find out who the shorter guy is.

George Costner?

thorntond 12-23-2018 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 2027252)
Ed Sullivan was Irish, imho they look African American.

Go away.

thorntond 12-23-2018 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by windsock (Post 2027250)
It looks like it's from Ed Sullivan. Maybe snoop around the episodes he was in?

Thanks. I've looked on the IMDb and I didn't say any names I recognised.

BlackPolkaDot 12-23-2018 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 2027150)
That's the great Lloyd Price.

Personally since I went to look at the original youtube video looking for Nat King Cole's name- haha yes I seriously thought it was him- and the name Lloyd Price was mentioned in the details of the video, I would personally trust this answer.

The Batlord 12-24-2018 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by thorntond (Post 2027261)
Thanks. I've looked on the IMDb and I didn't say any names I recognised.

Say their names three times into a mirror and you shall have your answer.

thorntond 12-24-2018 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg (Post 2027290)
Say their names three times into a mirror and you shall have your answer.

Does it work in a similar way with granting wishes?

If so, how many times will I need to ask the mirror to make you disappear?

thorntond 12-24-2018 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackPolkaDot (Post 2027265)
Personally since I went to look at the original youtube video looking for Nat King Cole's name- haha yes I seriously thought it was him- and the name Lloyd Price was mentioned in the details of the video, I would personally trust this answer.

It doesn't look like Lloyd Price.

Akai 12-24-2018 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by windsock (Post 2027250)
It looks like it's from Ed Sullivan

Nah, it's from the Pat Boone show

rostasi 12-24-2018 08:06 AM

The Pat Boone Show was in the swingin' 60s.
This is definitely 50s era - more than likely mid 50s Sullivan Show period.

I'm also leaning a bit toward Lonnie Sattin as a possibility.
I don't know how old he would be during this time, but it could be him.
I'd have to look again at some pix online to get a more recent look.
He was the cousin of the great Dakota Staton.
I'm still not ruling out Lloyd Price because, yes, he does look like a guy in his 20s -
this was the way classy guys in their 20s dressed in those days.

Update: yes, I'm seeing that Lonnie would've been 30 years old
during this performance. Going back to see if I can hear his voice
over the caterwauling Robinson.

The Batlord 12-24-2018 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by thorntond (Post 2027316)
Does it work in a similar way with granting wishes?

If so, how many times will I need to ask the mirror to make you disappear?

What are you? Some kinda superstitious peasant?

thorntond 12-24-2018 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 2027331)
The Pat Boone Show was in the swingin' 60s.
This is definitely 50s era - more than likely mid 50s Sullivan Show period.

I'm also leaning a bit toward Lonnie Sattin as a possibility.
I don't know how old he would be during this time, but it could be him.
I'd have to look again at some pix online to get a more recent look.
He was the cousin of the great Dakota Staton.
I'm still not ruling out Lloyd Price because, yes, he does look like a guy in his 20s -
this was the way classy guys in their 20s dressed in those days.

Update: yes, I'm seeing that Lonnie would've been 30 years old
during this performance. Going back to see if I can hear his voice
over the caterwauling Robinson.

Thanks but it isn't Lonnie Sattin or Lloyd Price.

They just don't look like the guy Robinson is with.

Akai 12-24-2018 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 2027331)
The Pat Boone Show was in the swingin' 60s.
This is definitely 50s era - more than likely mid 50s Sullivan Show period.

Go check the Documentary, they literally say it's the Pat Boone show dud

rostasi 12-24-2018 05:37 PM

No it doesn't. It just has Woody Allen saying that he was a writer for the Pat Boone Show and
that Sugar Ray was scheduled to be on (which, by the way, he didn't, in the end, actually do).
They then cut to Sugar Ray and Lloyd on the Sullivan show (which was B&W in the 50s -
the Pat Boone Show was in color in the late 60s).

Akai 12-24-2018 05:43 PM

Why wouldn't they say he didn't do it

rostasi 12-24-2018 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by thorntond (Post 2027536)
Thanks but it isn't Lonnie Sattin or Lloyd Price.

They just don't look like the guy Robinson is with.

Look. How about you just do the research yourself - or better yet,
drop this off at an R&B/soul/jazz forum and see if they say the
same things that I'm getting from at least 3 heavy duty jazz (player)
and R&B dudes on this side. I'm not really interested in this anymore.

I'll check with Lloyd himself and see what he says, but that's it on my side.

rostasi 12-24-2018 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Akai (Post 2027555)
Why wouldn't they say he didn't do it

?

You mean, why didn't the video mention that Sugar Ray didn't appear afterall?
Cause that wasn't the point of Woody Allen's comment (or actually any comment).

Neapolitan 12-24-2018 07:32 PM

Brook Benton?

Neapolitan 12-24-2018 07:51 PM

Is it Curtis Mayfield?

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Psy-Fi 12-25-2018 02:38 AM

That clip might also be from "The Pat Boone Chevy Showroom" which ran from 1957 to 1960. I think Woody Allen was a staff writer on that show.

Anyway, the closest guess I have (if the clip is from the late 50's to early/mid 60's) would be Dee Clark.


The singer in the video might've been a bit older than Clark would've been at that time, though.

The Batlord 12-25-2018 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 2027590)

Are those his real front teeth?! Jesus. How did he chew?

thorntond 12-25-2018 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 2027557)
Look. How about you just do the research yourself - or better yet,
drop this off at an R&B/soul/jazz forum and see if they say the
same things that I'm getting from at least 3 heavy duty jazz (player)
and R&B dudes on this side. I'm not really interested in this anymore.

I'll check with Lloyd himself and see what he says, but that's it on my side.

I've done research, I've looked online and can't find anything which is why I asked here.

Is it really necessary to spit your dummy out because I said he doesn't look like Lloyd Price?

The Batlord 12-25-2018 07:12 AM

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spit your dummy out
wut

Neapolitan 12-25-2018 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg (Post 2027635)
wut

It's a term coaches use during the Special Olympics.
Special Olympics coach "Go win that gold medal."
Special Olympics participant "Coach, you want us to win a bag of flour?"
Special Olympics coach "Spit your dummy out. No. Not a bag of flour, win the event, win a medal."

In many ways this is a Special Olympics. It's the event where a bunch of white guys try to identify a black man in a photograph.
thorntond is our frustrated Special Olympics coach.

Oriphiel 12-25-2018 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 2027643)
In many ways this is a Special Olympics. It's the event where a bunch of white guys try to identify a black man in a photograph.

:laughing:

rostasi 12-25-2018 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Psy-Fi (Post 2027609)
That clip might also be from "The Pat Boone Chevy Showroom" which ran from 1957 to 1960. I think Woody Allen was a staff writer on that show.
Anyway, the closest guess I have (if the clip is from the late 50's to early/mid 60's) would be Dee Clark.
The singer in the video might've been a bit older than Clark would've been at that time, though.

Thanks for helping out (which is more info than we're getting from the original poster).
Yeah, I'm familiar with Boone's Chevy-Showroom shows that were earlier, but it seems
that Woody Allen appeared on it once, with no sign of Robinson being on it. Allen was
writing mostly for Sid Caesar at that time and he did write a Chevy show for Caesar -
and was even nominated for an Emmy for it.

Dee Clark seems like a pretty good guess (much better than the "all black men look the same" kind of recent guesses),
but I checked online and apparently Dee only did American Bandstand and The Dick Clark Show during this time,
so that's what I'm seeing.

To the original poster: all we're getting here from you is "no, that's not it" -
no mention of any part that you've actually played in this. No mention of
any kind of what you're doing or have done - whether it's just curiosity or does
it have something to do with a certain project - what kind of research have you done -
something that maybe we didn't think of here, etc. In other words, some kind of
helpful feedback outside of "Duh, that's not ______. It doesn't look like him."
Yeah, I'm doing it because I'm always curious to expand my knowledge of things -
especially in the arts, but it's not so much the idea of you accepting my impressions,
it's that there seems to be no constructive feedback or any kind of give-and-take to this search.
That's why I'm tired of playing your reindeer games.


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