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**Frownland** · 11-07-2017, 09:17 PM

No Bach? That's straight up offensive given how much classical is on the list. Dude invented jazz.

OccultHawk · 11-08-2017, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

No Bach? That's straight up offensive given how much classical is on the list. Dude invented jazz.

That really is very hard to justify. Especially since Bach is widely considered the gold standard in classical music. Other composers that strong arguments could be made for include Mozart, Bartok, Stravinsky, Ives, Shostakovich, Lutoslawski, Vivaldi, and Steve Reich, Philip Glass, and Max Richter. But you went straight for the jugular when you mention Bach. It’s pretty much impossible to justify. There’s always the dig a little further back in time arguments. I could say that the incredible influence of Bach is really a product of Perotin. I could also suggest that Beethoven’s sonatas offer something structurally similar but Beethoven also provided anger and edge. But honestly, rubber on road, you’re right, excluding Bach is unjustifiable. Still, there’s nobody that I want to bump to make room.

Oriphiel · 11-08-2017, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

That really is very hard to justify. Especially since Bach is widely considered the gold standard in classical music. Other composers that strong arguments could be made for include Mozart, Bartok, Stravinsky, Ives, Shostakovich, Lutoslawski, Vivaldi, and Steve Reich, Philip Glass, and Max Richter. But you went straight for the jugular when you mention Bach. It’s pretty much impossible to justify. There’s always the dig a little further back in time arguments. I could say that the incredible influence of Bach is really a product of Perotin. I could also suggest that Beethoven’s sonatas offer something structurally similar but Beethoven also provided anger and edge. But honestly, rubber on road, you’re right, excluding Bach is unjustifiable. Still, there’s nobody that I want to bump to make room.

Don't Bach down, man. It's your list.

The Batlord · 11-08-2017, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel

Don't Bach down, man. It's your list.

You take that Bach!

**Frownland** · 11-08-2017, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

That really is very hard to justify. Especially since Bach is widely considered the gold standard in classical music. Other composers that strong arguments could be made for include Mozart, Bartok, Stravinsky, Ives, Shostakovich, Lutoslawski, Vivaldi, and Steve Reich, Philip Glass, and Max Richter. But you went straight for the jugular when you mention Bach. It’s pretty much impossible to justify. There’s always the dig a little further back in time arguments. I could say that the incredible influence of Bach is really a product of Perotin. I could also suggest that Beethoven’s sonatas offer something structurally similar but Beethoven also provided anger and edge. But honestly, rubber on road, you’re right, excluding Bach is unjustifiable. Still, there’s nobody that I want to bump to make room.

That's fine, it's your list. Not to take away from what he's done since he really is great, but personally I would have bumped Skip James since you already have Son House and Robert Johnson on the list.

OccultHawk · 11-08-2017, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

That's fine, it's your list. Not to take away from what he's done since he really is great, but personally I would have bumped Skip James since you already have Son House and Robert Johnson on the list.

I couldn’t skip James!

Seriously, with Skip James, he has to be on my list because he totally hits the spot. There’s plenty of justification from cultural relevance, too. If my goal was to be well rounded with representations from genres I probably would have left both James and Son House off and included Leadbelly and Bach. But both Son House and Skip James punch me in the ****ing face. The punching me in the ****ing face factor trumps all else.

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