The Rock Album Survivor Reviews Thread

[JGuy Grungeman]

Hear Nothing See Nothing Say Nothing by Discharge
Style: D-Beat, Crust Punk'
Release: 1982
Length: 27 min.
Round: Crust Punk

Let me get this straight: Extreme metal is a very iffy style for me. Thrash is about as extreme as I can handle. Death metal and black metal give me serious headaches. This album is as extreme as I can handle. Even now I have a tiny headache typing this. I would probably try black metal if I wasn't so morally opposed to the pagan and satanic imagery that it's known for. As far as this album goes, I have a couple serious problems with it. But I also have something to praise about it.

When I heard Bad Religion, I was aware of how their brand of punk called for very fast paces and very short times. I just realized they were basically "fast songs" and ended up liking them. But it seems that this band doesn't have the best grip on writing a song. They use the same verse multiple times in each song, which got on my nerves just like Ramones got on my nerves. I mean, unlike Bad Religion, it's hard to tell whether these guys have any talent playing their instruments or whether they're just wailing. Their rhythms just feel simple and easy to follow along with. Sometimes there is a cool main riff, but that's not the usual case. Too easy. However, their guitarist is a great guitarist. His wailings and riffs are quite clever, like Eddie Van Halen clever. And thankfully, the album's other instruments don't drown it out, entirely. Don't get me wrong. I really like punk. But if this is what I'm looking forward to in the upcoming round, I don't think I'll be participating very heavily in the crust punk round. The album is in fact enjoyable. I don't know. Maybe I need to be open to more crust before I judge this because I don't have a great grip on it and this is my first crust play. However, that'll wait.

For now, I give it an 84. Don't know if I'll vote it off because I'm not entirely familiar with crust punk.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

I would probably try black metal if I wasn't so morally opposed to the pagan and satanic imagery that it's known for.

Why are you morally opposed to pagan imagery? Are you morally opposed to Islamic or Buddhist imagery?

[JGuy Grungeman]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Why are you morally opposed to pagan imagery? Are you morally opposed to Islamic or Buddhist imagery?

As I fan of Greek, Egyptian, Indian, and Norse mythology, I'm not completely opposed as long as the content isn't violent or worshipping/praising the devil or any mythological being reminiscent of the devil. Still, I've tried black metal music before, at least music close to it, and I was getting a headache really quickly. I can't even play "unblack metal" (Christian black metal). And I admit I'm not entirely aware of all the content the genre has to offer, and am aware not all black metal albums have that content. Still, it's just to painful for my noggin. Not just black metal, most extreme genres.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

As I fan of Greek, Egyptian, Indian, and Norse mythology, I'm not completely opposed as long as the content isn't violent or worshipping/praising the devil or any mythological being reminiscent of the devil.

I can think of a very popular book that has content praising a devil like mythological being.

[Ol’ Qwerty Bastard]

Originally Posted by Frownland

I can think of a very popular book that has content praising a devil like mythological being.

Harry Potter?

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

As I fan of Greek, Egyptian, Indian, and Norse mythology, I'm not completely opposed as long as the content isn't violent or worshipping/praising the devil or any mythological being reminiscent of the devil. Still, I've tried black metal music before, at least music close to it, and I was getting a headache really quickly. I can't even play "unblack metal" (Christian black metal). And I admit I'm not entirely aware of all the content the genre has to offer, and am aware not all black metal albums have that content. Still, it's just to painful for my noggin. Not just black metal, most extreme genres.

But what does that have to do with paganism? Are you just talking about the kind of anti-Christian paganism in black metal? Considering your religious beliefs, I can understand that, but I'm just not clear what kind of paganism you're talking about.

[JGuy Grungeman]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

But what does that have to do with paganism? Are you just talking about the kind of anti-Christian paganism in black metal? Considering your religious beliefs, I can understand that, but I'm just not clear what kind of paganism you're talking about.

Pretty much anti-Christian or anti-God in general. Don't think of me as a paranoid Sunday preacher or anything, though. I really don't like exercizing paranoia. I don't want to get in a religious discussion or anything, though. I normally don't like those since they are usually just heated arguments about beliefs.

All in all, I still won't listen to black metal, even stuff that doesn't fit black metal's conventional "satanism" bill, because I get a splitting headache. I'd say thrash metal and crust punk are about all I can handle. ANd the second Death Note theme.

[JGuy Grungeman]

What I was saying was that I don't see how being overshadowed by white people has anything to do with the opinion that black people were better at rock and roll.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

What I was saying was that I don't see how being overshadowed by white people has anything to do with the opinion that black people were better at rock and roll.

It's not about black people being better at it due to genetic superiority or whatever, but black artists were just putting out better rock music in general during the fifties. But then whitey caught up, just like how it took time for whitey to catch up to black rappers.

[JGuy Grungeman]

I'd say most black rappers are better. However, Beastie Boys are my favorite because their lyrics occasionally make me laugh.

Anyway, I'm still playing Aftermath. I won't review it because I've already made my decision on whether I'd vote it off or not. It's blues rock, and barely has any rock and roll. I'm voting it off. It's great, though. I think it's my fifth RS album.