Tristan Geoff's Post-Hardcore Extravaganza

Tristan_Geoff · 12-29-2015, 11:11 PM

So last year I got bored in math class, and I decided to start jotting down post-hardcore bands, cause whatever. I got about 30/40 down, then started this quasi-obsession with jotting down any new band I found about into the list.

Well, at this point it includes over 200 bands, many of which I haven't heard much of, others complete discogs. I love the genre, and want to finish what I started, so I guess I'll start this journal to document my journey into one of punk's most artistic movements.

The List:

Spoiler for The List:

Spoiler for Requested Albums:

How I rate things (deleted as it's on my RYM now)

American Hardcore Journal Preface

Some Info

With each record I listen to by an artist in the list, I'll review it and put a link next to the artist. At some point I'll go ahead and put scores for the albums I've previously heard, but I won't review them unless requested to. Also feel free to request any albums for me to do and I'll place it in the list above. I also won't really get on with this until possibly this Summer, maybe sooner but not sure.

If there's any band I missed (that isn't Hot Topic post-hardcore) feel free to tell me and I'll add it. And yes, I'm aware that some of these bands are emo without much relation to post-hardcore, it's because I included second wave emo in the list for whatever reason and I don't want to remove it. Get Up Kid's Four Minute Mile definitely hearkens a little closer to hardcore than Jets to Brazil, but whatever. It's my list anyways.

**Frownland** · 12-29-2015, 11:15 PM

I love me a few post hardcore bands but never really explored the genre that much. Looking forward to this developing.

Tristan_Geoff · 12-29-2015, 11:20 PM

Thanks bud. Pardon my asking, but how do you post a spoiler?

**Frownland** · 12-29-2015, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff

Thanks bud. Pardon my asking, but how do you post a spoiler?

Go to the advanced reply (not the quick post) and click the "Show/Hide" icon. In the dialogue box that pops up, write what people will see on the unopened spoiler. Then in between the brackets, post the content that you want hidden.

Spoiler for like this:

Neapolitan · 12-29-2015, 11:41 PM

Use the "show/hide" button next to "Wrap [youtube] tags around selected text."

I see you have them all listed ahead of time. Three of my favorite post-Hardcore bands didn't show up, something must be wrong with monitor or something.

I'm subbing this, it looks super promising, and kinda looking for a decent journal to read. Go easy on Rites of Spring. I hate it when people rip on my favorite bands. I thought Minor Threat was Hardcore, but who am I to judge.

**Frownland** · 12-29-2015, 11:44 PM

It has Drive Like Jehu. That's all that counts.

I'm a little perplexed by the Coheed and Cambria and Mars Volta inclusion though.

Neapolitan · 12-29-2015, 11:55 PM

btw are (the) Melvins post-Hardcore or pre-Grunge?

The Identity Matrix · 12-30-2015, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

It has Drive Like Jehu. That's all that counts.

I'm a little perplexed by the Coheed and Cambria and Mars Volta inclusion though.

I would assume due to coheeds earlier work as well as Mars voltas post-hardcore precedings

Tristan_Geoff · 12-30-2015, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

btw are (the) Melvins post-Hardcore or pre-Grunge?

A few of their songs sound very Fugazi, so I included them. Some of the bands on the list might have a few songs or a single album that could be considered post-hardcore (like Minor Threat with In My Eyes) but it's in the list regardless.

By any means, tell me if I've missed any bands and I'll add them in.

Coheed and Mars Volta definitely have some post-hardcore elements too. Coheed showed this over their whole career, while only Deloused and Tremulant are the only overtly post-hardcore releases in their catalog.

Tristan_Geoff · 12-30-2015, 03:36 PM

American Hardcore (2007 Documentary Film)

I felt like it was only appropriate in a journal regarding post-hardcore to show my views on the original movement, and having watched this movie recently I feel it's a good place to start.

Punk, after it's mid 70's debut, had gone under a lot of changes by the 80's. Punk was being recognized by the public, through Ramones success and The Clash' experimental releases. Post-punk, while very artistic and envelope-pushing, just didn't bring punk fans the energy they strived for in the original movement. Three anerican bands rose up in 1979 to change that forever, putting the energy back in punk and changing the landscape forever. These three groups, Middle Class, Black Flag, and Bad Brains, are not only some of the most influentual bands in punk, but in music as a whole. Without them, there would be no Beastie Boys, Nirvana, Slint, Chili Peppers, Melvins, Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jr, etc.

The ideals shown in this film reflect most punk's then and today. Social ideals didn't need to be followed to a tee, music didn't have to be safe or formulaic, fashion doesn't matter, rules don't matter, and life doesn't matter. These people chose what they were going to do with their lives and did it. They wanted to play a show? They set up and performed wherever they pleased. They set up their own tours and wrote their own songs. They made their own labels and built the packages by hand to distribute. It was the ultimate display of DIY.

The last statements of the film reported that punk was dead. How? After all they did and believed, how could they say that what they worked for had not been continued or gone unnoticed? Just as their formula was getting old, Rites of Spring, Saccharine Trust, and Husker Du realized that they couldn't go on making loud, 1 minute songs. They needed a new way to be artistic, and did this by creating their own formula.

One of my favorite things about post-hardcore is that there isn't any characteristics or formulas. Each band was influenced by hardcore punk, and that's it. It's barely even a genre in that sense, even more so than post-punk which at least has atmosphere in common from a band to another.

The hardcore movement certainly lives on today through a number of bands, but as the mid 90's came up it was clear that post-hardcore had systematically replaced it...

My first review will be the origins of it all, Saccharine Trust's Pæganicons

12-29-2015, 11:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I love me a few post hardcore bands but never really explored the genre that much. Looking forward to this developing. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

12-29-2015, 11:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	It has Drive Like Jehu. That's all that counts. I'm a little perplexed by the Coheed and Cambria and Mars Volta inclusion though. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x