Tristan Geoff's Post-Hardcore Extravaganza

JGuy Grungeman · 04-05-2016, 12:08 PM

I never said they were "just post-hardcore." That's the whole reason I labeled those previous bands as "noise rock/post-hardcore." I actually thrive on genre diversity to the point of annoyance. Talking about genres makes up the majority of my review topics. And of course, an album can be much more than one genre. Heck, look at albums like Funeral, Fleet Foxes, Pet Sounds, hell any Beatles album. What I am saying is, a genre can be created if a definitive sound is common enough, no matter how much that sound can be experimented with on average by the bands who unintentionally made the sound so common that it gained a genre tag. I doubt Ramones would have known they'd be the start of a huge genre with so many subgenres.

I'm still waiting for grungegaze to get so common it's an official term. My point is there's no way in hell I disagree with you about bands and albums falling under multiple categories. But I also agree post-hardcore has a distinct sound.

**Frownland** · 04-05-2016, 12:20 PM

Ok, that was just what I inferred when you brought up other subgenres as if their existence disproved how diverse post hardcore is. That diversity is my key point in saying that there isn't a defined sound to the genre. Can you find similarities between different post hardcore artists? Obviously, but that doesn't mean that all post hardcore artists have a definitive link.

So atmospheric. So much emotional depth. Not aggressive like hardcore or anything.

JGuy Grungeman · 04-05-2016, 12:27 PM

One can say the same about other bands, though, since many bands have a "signature sound" whether or not they fall under multiple categories. I guess a good example is the distinctions between Sex Pistols and Ramones, specifically their debuts. Both are plain punk, but it's easy to tell them apart.

bob. · 04-07-2016, 09:10 AM

"We got straight edge, hard core , this core, that core.

Too many dividing lines!"

ever see that Seaweed video where they make fun of Runaway Trail by Soul Asylum? Rather than homeless little brats it's all about missing bikes

classic

Tristan_Geoff · 04-07-2016, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob.

"We got straight edge, hard core , this core, that core.

Too many dividing lines!"

ever see that Seaweed video where they make fun of Runaway Trail by Soul Asylum? Rather than homeless little brats it's all about missing bikes

classic

Lol yeah, love that video.

The Batlord · 04-07-2016, 01:32 PM

Alright, I'm not going through ten pages (at least not all at once), but I'd just like to know if you had any recs for some heavier post-hardcore for someone who digs post-hardcore metalcore like Snapcase and Poison the Well, and screamo like Orchid and Pg. 99?

Tristan_Geoff · 04-07-2016, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Alright, I'm not going through ten pages (at least not all at once), but I'd just like to know if you had any recs for some heavier post-hardcore for someone who digs post-hardcore metalcore like Snapcase and Poison the Well, and screamo like Orchid and Pg. 99?

I'm sure you've heard Circle Takes the Square? If not, definitely them. Also, Mondo recced this band Flourishing that I'm sure you'd dig. They've got a lot of Tech Death elements as well.

Like Frownland said, Unsane is up your alley. Also try Daniel Striped Tiger, they've got a little powerviolence influence and just sound amazing.

bob. · 04-08-2016, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Alright, I'm not going through ten pages (at least not all at once), but I'd just like to know if you had any recs for some heavier post-hardcore for someone who digs post-hardcore metalcore like Snapcase and Poison the Well, and screamo like Orchid and Pg. 99?

Have you heard KARP?

Spoiler for KARP:

what about Shellac?

Spoiler for Shellac:

Cutthroats 9?

Spoiler for Cutthroats 9:

Today is the Day is purrrfection.

Spoiler for One of the greatest albums ever recorded:

last but not least....Bodychoke (this is to calm down you wonderful inner serial killer)

Spoiler for One Moment of pleasure is worth more than your life:

The Batlord · 04-11-2016, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob.

Have you heard KARP?

Spoiler for KARP:

what about Shellac?

Spoiler for Shellac:

Cutthroats 9?

Spoiler for Cutthroats 9:

Today is the Day is purrrfection.

Spoiler for One of the greatest albums ever recorded:

last but not least....Bodychoke (this is to calm down you wonderful inner serial killer)

Spoiler for One Moment of pleasure is worth more than your life:

KARP was pretty ****in' sick, and I'm already familiar with Today Is the Day. Evil ****ing band. Their Temple of the Morning Star is one of my most confusing albums, since the **** that is good is perfect, but there's just so much in-between the good bits that could have been cut out that I can't quite throw my whole support behind it. But there's so much stuff on it that is just amazing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff

Some Girls too then, almost forgot about them.

As in this band?

http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/some_girls_f1

**Frownland** · 04-07-2016, 01:52 PM

A Lot Like Birds' Conversation Pieces is probably up your alley. Unsane will likely get you off too.

04-05-2016, 12:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
JGuy Grungeman Primo Celebate Sexiness Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,662	I never said they were "just post-hardcore." That's the whole reason I labeled those previous bands as "noise rock/post-hardcore." I actually thrive on genre diversity to the point of annoyance. Talking about genres makes up the majority of my review topics. And of course, an album can be much more than one genre. Heck, look at albums like Funeral, Fleet Foxes, Pet Sounds, hell any Beatles album. What I am saying is, a genre can be created if a definitive sound is common enough, no matter how much that sound can be experimented with on average by the bands who unintentionally made the sound so common that it gained a genre tag. I doubt Ramones would have known they'd be the start of a huge genre with so many subgenres. I'm still waiting for grungegaze to get so common it's an official term. My point is there's no way in hell I disagree with you about bands and albums falling under multiple categories. But I also agree post-hardcore has a distinct sound. __________________ I'm a pretty nice troll if you ask me.

04-05-2016, 12:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Ok, that was just what I inferred when you brought up other subgenres as if their existence disproved how diverse post hardcore is. That diversity is my key point in saying that there isn't a defined sound to the genre. Can you find similarities between different post hardcore artists? Obviously, but that doesn't mean that all post hardcore artists have a definitive link. So atmospheric. So much emotional depth. Not aggressive like hardcore or anything. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

04-05-2016, 12:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
JGuy Grungeman Primo Celebate Sexiness Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,662	One can say the same about other bands, though, since many bands have a "signature sound" whether or not they fall under multiple categories. I guess a good example is the distinctions between Sex Pistols and Ramones, specifically their debuts. Both are plain punk, but it's easy to tell them apart. __________________ I'm a pretty nice troll if you ask me.

04-07-2016, 09:10 AM	#4 (permalink)
bob. Still sends his reguards. Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Trying to get out of the cat town.... Posts: 5,039	"We got straight edge, hard core , this core, that core. Too many dividing lines!" ever see that Seaweed video where they make fun of Runaway Trail by Soul Asylum? Rather than homeless little brats it's all about missing bikes classic __________________ A kiss is the beginning of cannibalism. Reach out, pierce the fine fabric of the sheltering sky, take repose.

04-07-2016, 01:52 PM	#10 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	A Lot Like Birds' Conversation Pieces is probably up your alley. Unsane will likely get you off too. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x