Retro gems: From NES to the PS

Black Francis · 05-17-2015, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Haha, I remember renting that game like 25 years ago. I had completely forgotten about that one!

Though you couldn't remember the game, i bet you remember the artwork and the Ying yang symbols, right?

They should of called the game Ying yang skating, that's a name anyone can remember!

It was a fun game, right? i rented a bunch of times too that's why i remembered it.
i remember in those days you could rent a Nes game for 4 days and it only costed a dollar.

Aux-In · 05-18-2015, 09:36 PM

I'm not sure if I ever played it. It looks cool and I personally think the game's name is awesome. Just from the pics it looks like a cross between Skate or Die, California Games and Double Dragon.

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

This game had a superior gameplay compared to Skate or Die or the skating and surfng stages of California games and 27 years later i know why.

But does it have Hackey Sack? That is the question.

Black Francis · 05-19-2015, 03:51 PM

No, sadly it doesn't.

That was my favorite event in California games btw but let's be honest, California games kinda sucked.
The Bike and rollerskating events were ridiculously hard and controlled horribly. that's why the hackey sack was my favorite event, cause it had tight controls.

Black Francis · 05-20-2015, 04:20 PM

Persona 2: Eternal punishment (PS1)

I bought this game not too long ago on the psn and as fan of the Persona series i have to say, Persona 2 is the most unique one. this game is actually the 3rd game of the series but it's part of a 2 part story tied to Persona 2: innocent sin (which i haven't played yet)

Unlike innocent sin and most Persona games the main character is a female reporter named Maya Amano who works for a teen magazine.

One of the things the Persona games focus on is setting the games in present times, in all the persona games the characters are either students or have mundane jobs so the adversities of the characters are not really mythological, they are based on society.

This little detail is what set this franchise apart from most rpgs, that and the fact that could talk to the enemies in the game and win them over. No ps1 rpg at the time did that.

Black Francis · 05-20-2015, 04:23 PM

See, the enemies in this game are Personas themselves (except for bosses) so in order to acquire persona for your characters you have to win them by talking to them and impressing them. each of your party members has their own way of talking, for exmpl Maya your main character does a reporter interview on the monsters, you use her to talk to monsters who are vain and egotistical.

Katsuya (a party member who is a cop) uses interrogation which works on fearful and paranoid monsters. acquiring personas and mixing them to create more powerful ones is crucial to the game but unlike in Persona 3 & 4 in this game there is compatibility aspect to the personas, if you equip a persona that is compatible with your character your Magic attacks consume very little MP in contrast equiping an incompatible Persona will consume ALOT of MP.

For those of you who haven't played any of the games and are wondering what the hell is a persona, it's simple. Personas are deities that aid you in the game.

Black Francis · 05-20-2015, 04:23 PM

Here's one of my favorites

Dionysus

"Dionysus is the ancient Greek god of wine, wine cups, wineskin, grapes, and fertility. He inspires ritual madness, joyful worship, and ecstasy, carnivals, and celebration. He is sometimes included as one of the twelve Olympians. He was also known as Bacchus, the name adopted by the Romans and the frenzy he induces, bakkheia. In addition to winemaking, he is the patron deity of agriculture and the theater."

This is how the games incorporates mythology HOWEVER it is not something that reflects on the story, it only reflects on the Personas.

Every Persona game has these deities that come from greek mythology, hindu mythology, japanese mythology, you name it, they cover most of the major deities created by those cultures and they catalogue and explain each one in the Compendium the game has.

But now let's talk about the story

Black Francis · 05-20-2015, 04:24 PM

The premise of the story is there is psychotic killer simply called the joker

This anonymous killer came to be because people created him out of rumors, The rumor was that if you hated someone you'd call a specific number and the joker would appear to punish that person.

As the rumor grew the myth became a fact and now everyone is at risk the boogeyman created by themselves will end them.
Rumors becoming true is a huge part of the story dynamics, you can spread rumors yourself and they end up becoming true, for exmpl to get the best weapons in the game you need to start a rumor a specific shop is selling them then you hire a guy to start spreading the rumor and then it becomes true.

That, mixed with a dark storyline which has good voice acting in important scenes PLUS mythological deities AND spell combinations makes this game a superb rpg that makes most final fantasy games look childish.

Engine · 05-20-2015, 11:23 PM

As an 80s kid who was addicted video games to the point that it may have negatively affected my social life to this day I adore this journal. I'm a little bit afraid of the massive impact NES games had on me but I'm willing to go back there.

Excitebike

The Legend of Kage

And to InnerDOSboy yes I was into it. King's Quest kind of changed everything for me

Black Francis · 05-21-2015, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine

As an 80s kid who was addicted video games to the point that it may have negatively affected my social life to this day I adore this journal. I'm a little bit afraid of the massive impact NES games had on me but I'm willing to go back there.

Excitebike

The Legend of Kage

LEGEND OF KAGE!
That's a good pick, that game made you feel like a real ninja!

lol Nintendo pretty much ruined much ruined my life too but i recently heard something from Derek the Happy videogame nerd that made me feel at ease, he said:

"Don't be afraid to be in lesbians with videogames"

If you have fond memories of Legend of Kage checkout the Continue? guys playthrough, they go crazy for it.

Black Francis · 05-23-2015, 10:29 AM

I want to talk a bit about fighting games, specifically the top 5 fighting games that imo are were the blueprints for modern fighting games. Starting with Street fighter 2

Though SF is not the first fighting game ever it is the first fighting game to get the concept right, this game did not only set a new standard in fighting games, it set the standard for fighting moves as well.

Most fighting moves to this day are a derivation of this:

← ↓ → + P = Hadouken

→ ↓ → + P = Shoryouken

↓ ↑ + K = Spinning Bird kick

05-19-2015, 03:51 PM	#53 (permalink)
Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	No, sadly it doesn't. That was my favorite event in California games btw but let's be honest, California games kinda sucked. The Bike and rollerskating events were ridiculously hard and controlled horribly. that's why the hackey sack was my favorite event, cause it had tight controls. __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A

05-20-2015, 04:20 PM	#54 (permalink)
Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	Persona 2: Eternal punishment (PS1) I bought this game not too long ago on the psn and as fan of the Persona series i have to say, Persona 2 is the most unique one. this game is actually the 3rd game of the series but it's part of a 2 part story tied to Persona 2: innocent sin (which i haven't played yet) Unlike innocent sin and most Persona games the main character is a female reporter named Maya Amano who works for a teen magazine. One of the things the Persona games focus on is setting the games in present times, in all the persona games the characters are either students or have mundane jobs so the adversities of the characters are not really mythological, they are based on society. This little detail is what set this franchise apart from most rpgs, that and the fact that could talk to the enemies in the game and win them over. No ps1 rpg at the time did that. __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A

05-20-2015, 04:23 PM	#55 (permalink)
Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	See, the enemies in this game are Personas themselves (except for bosses) so in order to acquire persona for your characters you have to win them by talking to them and impressing them. each of your party members has their own way of talking, for exmpl Maya your main character does a reporter interview on the monsters, you use her to talk to monsters who are vain and egotistical. Katsuya (a party member who is a cop) uses interrogation which works on fearful and paranoid monsters. acquiring personas and mixing them to create more powerful ones is crucial to the game but unlike in Persona 3 & 4 in this game there is compatibility aspect to the personas, if you equip a persona that is compatible with your character your Magic attacks consume very little MP in contrast equiping an incompatible Persona will consume ALOT of MP. For those of you who haven't played any of the games and are wondering what the hell is a persona, it's simple. Personas are deities that aid you in the game. __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A

05-20-2015, 04:23 PM	#56 (permalink)
Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	Here's one of my favorites Dionysus "Dionysus is the ancient Greek god of wine, wine cups, wineskin, grapes, and fertility. He inspires ritual madness, joyful worship, and ecstasy, carnivals, and celebration. He is sometimes included as one of the twelve Olympians. He was also known as Bacchus, the name adopted by the Romans and the frenzy he induces, bakkheia. In addition to winemaking, he is the patron deity of agriculture and the theater." This is how the games incorporates mythology HOWEVER it is not something that reflects on the story, it only reflects on the Personas. Every Persona game has these deities that come from greek mythology, hindu mythology, japanese mythology, you name it, they cover most of the major deities created by those cultures and they catalogue and explain each one in the Compendium the game has. But now let's talk about the story __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A

05-20-2015, 04:24 PM	#57 (permalink)
Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	The premise of the story is there is psychotic killer simply called the joker This anonymous killer came to be because people created him out of rumors, The rumor was that if you hated someone you'd call a specific number and the joker would appear to punish that person. As the rumor grew the myth became a fact and now everyone is at risk the boogeyman created by themselves will end them. Rumors becoming true is a huge part of the story dynamics, you can spread rumors yourself and they end up becoming true, for exmpl to get the best weapons in the game you need to start a rumor a specific shop is selling them then you hire a guy to start spreading the rumor and then it becomes true. That, mixed with a dark storyline which has good voice acting in important scenes PLUS mythological deities AND spell combinations makes this game a superb rpg that makes most final fantasy games look childish. __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A

05-20-2015, 11:23 PM	#58 (permalink)
Engine air quote Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: pollen & mold Posts: 3,108	As an 80s kid who was addicted video games to the point that it may have negatively affected my social life to this day I adore this journal. I'm a little bit afraid of the massive impact NES games had on me but I'm willing to go back there. Excitebike The Legend of Kage And to InnerDOSboy yes I was into it. King's Quest kind of changed everything for me __________________ Like an arrow, I was only passing through.

05-23-2015, 10:29 AM	#60 (permalink)
Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	Top 5 fighting games I want to talk a bit about fighting games, specifically the top 5 fighting games that imo are were the blueprints for modern fighting games. Starting with Street fighter 2 Though SF is not the first fighting game ever it is the first fighting game to get the concept right, this game did not only set a new standard in fighting games, it set the standard for fighting moves as well. Most fighting moves to this day are a derivation of this: ← ↓ → + P = Hadouken → ↓ → + P = Shoryouken ↓ ↑ + K = Spinning Bird kick __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A