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Old 01-26-2017, 03:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey Innerspaceboy, have you ever played Killer7? If so, I'd love to hear your interpretation of what it's about.
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Hey Innerspaceboy, have you ever played Killer7? If so, I'd love to hear your interpretation of what it's about.
Definitely an interesting game. My console gaming experience is limited to the 8-bit NES, a few Genesis titles, and PC shareware from the MS-DOS era. (AlphaWaves, Nebulous, Commander Keen, and The Neverhood are fond favorites.

From what I've read on Wiki, the storyline is fairly well understood. Are there elements of the plot left open to interpretation?
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From what I've read on Wiki, the storyline is fairly well understood. Are there elements of the plot left open to interpretation?
Yes, the whole plot is completely open to interpretation. Suda51 intentionally made it so that each individual player has to decide for themselves what is real and what is symbolic in every scene. Is it the story of two immortals fighting endlessly throughout time? Is it about an assassin that is brainwashed by the government, and Harman and Kun Lan (as well as everyone else) are just elements implanted in him to control him? Is it about an old man going crazy as he sits alone waiting to die, and the whole story is a mixture of his memories and what he sees on his TV? Or is it all just a metaphor for the futility of politics and war?

There are also a whole bunch of unanswered questions throughout the game, and everyone who plays the game has to fill in the blanks for themselves. For example:

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Why does Kun Lan, the villain, have the "Hand of God"? Was he actually the good guy, fighting to prevent a totalitarian world void of freedom? Or was he simply a symbol of eastern culture clashing with the west? Why does Garcian react to security cameras the way that he does? What exactly is the Yakumo (a document detailing the UN party's policy? A list of Japanese spies that have infiltrated the US? A symbol of authority that a certain voting block is sworn to back?)? Who is LOVE, and what did she mean when she was talking to Garcian? Is Emir a human and his rebirth/longevity simply a metaphor, or is he more than human? What specifically is Kun Lan's involvement with Emir? Who is Iwazaru and his wife, and should what happens in the trailer's basement be taken literally? Who is screaming behind the metal door in Garcian's trailer? Who is the Gatekeeper of the Vinculum Gate?


If you ever get the chance to play the game, I'd love to hear your thoughts. If you go hunting for a copy (or a ROM), I would recommend the version developed for the Gamecube. It's the original, and features several graphical differences from the PS2 version, as well as shorter loading times.
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Yes, the whole plot is completely open to interpretation.
Sounds fascinating! Thanks for the scoop!
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Sounds fascinating! Thanks for the scoop!
You're welcome.

So, you've played a few Genesis games? Are there any you still play now and then?
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So, you've played a few Genesis games? Are there any you still play now and then?
I do, indeed. (Rocket Knight Adventures was a lot of fun.) There's was a nice package circulating the web back in 2013 called the 6666-in-1 RETRO_LEGENDS ROM Pack, which comprises over 6,000 North American and Japanese titles for the NES, SNES, NeoGeo, GBA, Sega Genesis, Master System, Atari, N64, TurboGrafX, and the ZX Spectrum, as well as 534 popular arcade titles for MAME. I imagine there are larger libraries which incorporate later system today.

I picked up several retro USB game controllers and enjoy kicking back on a Saturday for some head-to-head Marvel vs Capcom or Mario Kart against my wife.

Retroarch supports an insane number of system cores and lets you navigate and load any title via its corresponding core from any device - desktop, Android phone, whatever. The one feature I haven't explored yet is NetPlay so that I can kick the a**es of my friends overseas as well.

The other retro pleasure I partake in is a server I dubbed RetroBox which I loaded with 100 complete tv series archives of my favorite 80s and 90s cartoons and live action shows, including a few I never got around to as a kid, like Batman: The Animated Series. I'm thinking about downloading a few 8-hour commercial archives from the same decades and configuring the server to play through the episode library at random with commercials inserted every 15 minutes or so. The plan would be to port the server's video output to a woody Zenith CRT telvision (you know, with honkin' UHF and VHF knobs), stick it on a 1980s microwave cart and wheel it into the bedroom for Saturday morning cartoons. (Cap'n Crunch sold seperately.)
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Ha ha, over 6,000? That's a ton of games! I remember playing Mario Kart on the SNES with my sisters. The AI racers were such cheating assholes, especially Peach.

I see that you're a man who takes his saturday morning cartoons very seriously. I can respect that. Every now and then, I'm known to grab a bowl of cereal and throw on TMNT. Just a few months ago, I watched all of Space Adventure Cobra for the hell of it, watching an episode every morning while I ate breakfast.

Is there a reason you don't play games from the PS2/Gamecube/Xbox era? Personally, it's my favorite generation.
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If you don't want to risk spending money on a system and games that you'll end up not even liking then there's always Youtube Let's Plays, where you can watch personalities play video games in much the same format as a podcast. There's a delightful and very insightful one by the name of Pewdiepie who I think you would find very interesting.


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If you don't want to risk spending money on a system and games that you'll end up not even liking then there's always Youtube Let's Plays, where you can watch personalities play video games in much the same format as a podcast. There's a delightful and very insightful one by the name of Pewdiepie who I think you would find very interesting.


Thanks, Bat. I've enjoyed a few Let's Plays in the past, but had never heard of this guy before, (nor have I seen a vlog if that is what I'm witnessing). May I speak frankly? I'm hoping you guys can help me understand this phenomenon.

I clicked through Pew... (no, screw it, the name is absurd. Why the hell would anyone adopt such a moniker?) ...I clicked through several of his videos and stomached as many minutes as I could stand in an effort to develop some sort of understanding of why anyone on this planet would watch this a**hat.

Why did he spend eight full minutes exploring the subtle nuances and philosophy of the phrase, "Pen Pineapple Apple Pen?"

I respect a few of the socio-cultural positions he appears to take on various trivial matters, (though I try to frame his arguments in the grander context of social impact, free speech, etc. rather than on the inconsequential happenings of other teenage dolts filming themselves on the web.)

But his humor and language are elementary, his attire and set design are juvenile at best and would end a critical conversation with a potential peer long before he'd had the opportunity to open his mouth.

Please, please pardon my woeful ignorance here - you must understand that I've had conversations with, at most, 7 or 8 persons under the age of 30 "IRL" as they say between 2010 and the present. In my day-to-day routine, I encounter two coworkers (aged 65 or older) and one CEO of 50-odd years. Apart from the briefest of exchanges with the occasional client picking up an order, I really don't ever speak to anyone, so I'm a bit in the dark with regard to what people look like or sound like these days.

Do ladies and gents actually conduct themselves like this Pewdiepie fellow? If so, how do they receive any respect or acknowledgment from those around them?

I ask this genuinely, as I am perplexed by what I've seen this evening.
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