Sounds from Innerspace

innerspaceboy · 06-12-2018, 04:51 PM

Supplemental Note:

A good friend was kind enough to offer his thoughts about what sets an archive apart from other collections, and his remark was too good not to share. He said -

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I think another major difference between the average personal collection and an archive is retention and adaptation.

A casual listener or collector wouldn't have the retention of a true archive. The individual may build some playlists or even some advanced structure for locating and listening to music, but there is a very good chance that after some time, that particular music will get buried by the newer, or the most current thing the user is listening to. The casual listener may not want the huge or growing library, so when they feel they have moved on, the music will be removed from their collection. I cannot see someone who is keeping an archive remove anything from their collection. So retaining the entire collection and not removing anything because they are bored with it would be a difference.

I also mentioned adaptation. This is a rather basic idea but would be rather important in the grand scheme of things. Lets say you have a collection of 100 songs, all with 4 points of meta data. You realize as you begin to add more songs to your collection, a 5th point of data is needed. A casual listener may leave those 100 songs in the current state they're in, with the 4 points of data. The archivist would need to go back, and add that 5th point to all 100 songs, and the new ones. Add another zero to those numbers and that can be a daunting, but necessary task for the archivist.

I really appreciated his input!

innerspaceboy · 06-13-2018, 06:43 AM

Just a quick peek-in to share something I'm really enjoying this morning - here's a 2017 interview piece with Brian Eno exploring his powerful generative music application, Reflection. Over a half an hour Eno demonstrates how incorporating a few rules for randomness can create an incredibly human touch to simple drum loops and ambient tonalities.

Here's the full interview, and I'll link some highlight snippets below for those without a half hour to spare.

And for highlights...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tURRSJ-q4bg

grindy · 06-13-2018, 07:43 AM

I've watched the drumloop video a few weeks ago and I was extremely disappointed. One plays around with this kind of stuff in the second week of working with a program for creating electronic music. I really had expected more from Eno than something that basic.

innerspaceboy · 06-13-2018, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy

I've watched the drumloop video a few weeks ago and I was extremely disappointed. One plays around with this kind of stuff in the second week of working with a program for creating electronic music. I really had expected more from Eno than something that basic.

I think keeping it basic was part of the point - he was demonstrating the fundamental process of introducing variation with rules, not showing off virtuoso AI. The drumloop gets a little more involved in the few minutes following that excerpt but again, his focus is on the logic and not on complexity.

grindy · 06-13-2018, 01:09 PM

And that fundamental process is extremely basic and uninventive. This is drum programming 101.

OccultHawk · 06-13-2018, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy

And that fundamental process is extremely basic and uninventive. This is drum programming 101.

Well goddamn not everyone has had drum programming 101

grindy · 06-13-2018, 01:54 PM

I just expected more from Eno, I guess.

OccultHawk · 06-13-2018, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy

I just expected more from Eno, I guess.

Ban ISB

I mean seriously

**** this ****

grindy · 06-13-2018, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Ban ISB

I mean seriously

**** this ****

You're just trying to eliminate the journal competition.

innerspaceboy · 06-20-2018, 06:05 PM

This very week for my birthday in 2008 I had the most incredible thrift store haul of my life. I walked into a Volunteers of America and they had just set out these 17 original blues classics all in great shape including Howlin Wolf, Little Walter, Muddy Waters, Sonny Boy Williamson, Albert King, The Super Blues Band, Hound Dog Taylor, and Freddie King.

It was an incredible birthday surprise, and hauls like this never happen at thrift stores anymore. I'm giving them another loving spin tonight to celebrate.

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grindy . Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: . Posts: 7,201	And that fundamental process is extremely basic and uninventive. This is drum programming 101. __________________ *A smell of petroleum prevails throughout.*

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grindy . Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: . Posts: 7,201	I just expected more from Eno, I guess. __________________ *A smell of petroleum prevails throughout.*