Star Drek: Trollheart and The Batlord's Star Trek Voyager Slapfest!

Trollheart · 10-20-2014, 07:02 PM

I've been a Star Trek fan all my life. I grew up on the original series with Kirk, Spock, Scotty and McCoy, and was delighted when the franchise was revived in 1987 with Star Trek: The Next Generation, with the series updated to the new moral codes and much deeper storylines and a touch less of the comic relief. Deep Space 9 followed in 1993 and when Voyager premiered two years later we had two Trek shows running concurrently. Surely it could not get any better, I thought?

And I was right. It didn't. Voyager was, for me, a huge letdown. Like any series, you give it a chance for a few episodes, even a season, but Voyager in many ways never really got going. Sure, it had some good episodes but they were few and far between and generally the show became for me, and for a large percentage of the Star Trek followers, the weakest of the three descendants of the original.

But my buddy The Batlord does not agree, and in the pages of this journal we will go head to head, watching every episode of Voyager and debating the strengths and weaknesses of each, as well as trying to put the series in perspective. Expect the sparks to fly. Expect scraped knees and red faces. Expect shouted insults and stony silences. Expect a real contest of wills, fact challenged by preference, namecalling and sulking, as two of the most rabid Trekkers here (yeah he probably doesn't consider himself a Trekker but anyone who's willing to partake in a debate with me about the merits or otherwise of Voyager can't avoid the implication) square off against each other in an arena which only one will leave from, bloody but undefeated.

That will be me, of course.
Welcome, one and all, to...

Isbjørn · 10-21-2014, 09:03 AM

"Slapfest"? Sounds kinky, have fun.

The Batlord · 10-21-2014, 10:01 AM

It was supposed to be "Slap-Fight", but apparently it was in one ear and out the other.

Trollheart · 10-21-2014, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Briks

"Slapfest"? Sounds kinky, have fun.

Yeah. I wanted "smackdown", but he wasn't having any of it.

The Batlord · 10-21-2014, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Yeah. I wanted "smackdown", but he wasn't having any of it.

"Smackdown" is a boring cliche with no personality.

Plankton · 10-21-2014, 11:33 AM

Galaxy Quest > Any Star Trek Series

Trollheart · 10-21-2014, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

It was supposed to be "Slap-Fight", but apparently it was in one ear and out the other.

Slap-fight doesn't sound right, says he, hoping nobody will realise he ****ed up and is desperately trying to cover....

Thelonious Monkey · 10-21-2014, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Plankton

Galaxy Quest > Any Star Trek Series

I was always put off of Star Trek because of how intimidating it looked. There are tons of different series for it and many films. Galaxy Quest is an awesome film from my childhood though. Glad you acknowledged it.

Trollheart · 10-21-2014, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinJJustin

I always put off of Star Trek because of how intimidating it looked. There are tons of different series for it and many films. Galaxy Quest is an awesome film from my childhood though. Glad you acknowledged it.

Well, there are five:
Star Trek, the original series (TOS) also called Classic Trek
Star Trek The Next Generation
Star Trek Deep Space Nine
Star Trek Voyager
Enterprise, later Star Trek Enterprise

and yeah, there are I think ten "original" films to date, with two more from the "reimagined" universe and a third in the pipeline.

Unknown Soldier · 10-21-2014, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Well, there are five:
Star Trek, the original series (TOS) also called Classic Trek
Star Trek The Next Generation
Star Trek Deep Space Nine
Star Trek Voyager
Enterprise, later Star Trek Enterprise

and yeah, there are I think ten "original" films to date, with two more from the "reimagined" universe and a third in the pipeline.

You forgot the animated series that came out in the early 1970s with 22 episodes.

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