A Place, But Unlike Other Places

CoNtrivedNiHilism · 10-07-2014, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Scientific fact remains indisputable until something comes along to dispute it, that's how science works. Once that new evidence comes out scientists jump at the opportunity to study it.

The science says that your brain stays in the same place and that what we see in dreams is a hallucinatory product of a chemical released by our rains during the rapid eye movement period of sleep. So that's what I'm going to base my opinion on until we find evidence of us seeing into other dimensions. It's fine to ask these what if questions, but don't knock the science.

The bold text is more or less what I meant, I just said it harshly. You're right. It is presumptuous of me to assume that they don't consider they're wrong about something, or that something they discover and prove can't one day change. Because they likely do consider those things all of the time before settling on what they've come to know is fact.

Science does fascinate me. I love everything about it. If I went to college, I'd probably get degrees and masters and such in types of science, just so I could study things of my own findings.

About dreaming and such...you know, I choose to believe that there's more to dreams than just a chemical release in our brains. I could be completely wrong. But I like to think that we're capable of amazing things that right now, science says we're incapable of.

I like talking to you about this stuff. We should do it more.

Josef K · 10-07-2014, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CoNtrivedNiHilism

The bold text is more or less what I meant, I just said it harshly. You're right. It is presumptuous of me to assume that they don't consider they're wrong about something, or that something they discover and prove can't one day change. Because they likely do consider those things all of the time before settling on what they've come to know is fact.

Science does fascinate me. I love everything about it. If I went to college, I'd probably get degrees and masters and such in types of science, just so I could study things of my own findings.

About dreaming and such...you know, I choose to believe that there's more to dreams than just a chemical release in our brains. I could be completely wrong. But I like to think that we're capable of amazing things that right now, science says we're incapable of.

I like talking to you about this stuff. We should do it more.

This seems to be sort of a contradiction - on the one hand, you're talking about how much you love science, but it's clear that you only love science so long as you still are choosing to believe things that all the scientific evidence says you shouldn't. Lots of people believe lots of crazier things and there's nothing wrong with believing what you do, although I'm with Frownland in my disagreement with you on this specific issue. What you shouldn't do is act like you're somehow totally on board with the scientific method and with studies that have been done despite having these beliefs.

CoNtrivedNiHilism · 10-10-2014, 04:06 AM

Opinions...

All too common, opinions get perverted or made to be facts in the minds of those possessing them. When one person believes something so strongly, no amount of persuasion or discussion will change their opinion, most generally about anything and irregardless of any factual evidence being given to prove an opinion wrong or having no truth to it.

Throughout my lifetime, throughout most of our lifetime we experience being caught in a debate with someone that confuses the difference between a fact, and an opinion. It can often be mentally draining to discuss anything with someone so stubborn or fixed in their ways. I have made it a point to try to my best ability to not be like that when expressing any opinion I may have on a topic being discussed. I know firsthand that it's not something that is always easy to do, to express my thoughts on something and not give the impression that only what I say is right, and whatever else someone says on what's being discussed if I don't like it, is wrong.

But then there's those people that just don't care how their opinions look or sound to someone else. Someone can express their opinion, and their opinion is passed off as stupid, seemingly out of spite or arrogance. Agree, or otherwise those kind of people will say how ignorant or stupid you are for not sharing their opinion. So tiring...

To just summarize what I'm trying to say. People need to get over themselves.

10-10-2014, 04:06 AM	#3 (permalink)
CoNtrivedNiHilism Because I Am, I Can! Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 1,128	Opinions, opinions, and more opinions... Opinions... All too common, opinions get perverted or made to be facts in the minds of those possessing them. When one person believes something so strongly, no amount of persuasion or discussion will change their opinion, most generally about anything and irregardless of any factual evidence being given to prove an opinion wrong or having no truth to it. Throughout my lifetime, throughout most of our lifetime we experience being caught in a debate with someone that confuses the difference between a fact, and an opinion. It can often be mentally draining to discuss anything with someone so stubborn or fixed in their ways. I have made it a point to try to my best ability to not be like that when expressing any opinion I may have on a topic being discussed. I know firsthand that it's not something that is always easy to do, to express my thoughts on something and not give the impression that only what I say is right, and whatever else someone says on what's being discussed if I don't like it, is wrong. But then there's those people that just don't care how their opinions look or sound to someone else. Someone can express their opinion, and their opinion is passed off as stupid, seemingly out of spite or arrogance. Agree, or otherwise those kind of people will say how ignorant or stupid you are for not sharing their opinion. So tiring... To just summarize what I'm trying to say. People need to get over themselves.