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Isbjørn · 03-06-2014, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

See the thing is these people who dismiss glam metal are looking at metal from a 2014 perspective after extreme forms of metal have been around for almost 3 decades.

Try looking at that Motley Crue album from a 1982 perspective when it was one of the heaviest mixes of 70s Metal, Glam Rock & Punk Rock around at that time and tell me it's not a metal album.

Plus the glam metal of 1981/82 was very different to the glam metal of 1988/89. And it was dying long before Grunge came along. Blame late 80s bands like RHCP, Faith No More & Jane's Addiction for the real downfall of hair metal.

Then what's with Motörhead being classified by many as simply "hard rock"?

Unknown Soldier · 03-06-2014, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Briks

[CENTER][SIZE=6][B]Chunks of metal: heavy metal Uhm, well, I'm not sure whether this can really pass as metal, and we were aware when selecting it, but it'll have to do. Wikipedia and Unknown Soldier both say it's metal, anyway

Why don't you think this album is metal? Personally I'd say it was one of the most metal albums of its time. I mean you couldn't get more metal than Eddie Van Halen on guitar. Also worth remembering is that Van Halen being an American band had a distinctive take on metal compared to a lot of their UK counterparts, which means that US metal bands sounded very different to their UK counterparts.

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Originally Posted by Briks

Then what's with Motörhead being classified by many as simply "hard rock"?

As Urban said they were formed in 1976 and hard rock was a more accurate moniker for most heavy bands than heavy metal. The heavy metal label really only became the dominant label post 1980. Since then Motorhead have usually been labelled as both.

Isbjørn · 03-07-2014, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

Also worth remembering is that Van Halen being an American band had a distinctive take on metal compared to a lot of their UK counterparts, which means that US metal bands sounded very different to their UK counterparts.

I think I read somewhere that on the true fathers of metal, American and British papers tend to disagree; the former usually claim it's Led Zeppelin, while the latter sticks to Black Sabbath. Is that because the two bands influenced different types of metal? That is, Led Zeppelin inspired mostly American Bands, while British bands took more influence from Black Sabbath?