The Poseur Cave

Taxman · 01-02-2014, 02:47 PM

Also, inconsistency ain't a crime. Don't care about genres, it is better that you write about what you want to. And variety is a spice of life, ain't it?

Isbjørn · 01-02-2014, 03:00 PM

I don't trust pitchfork either. First thing I saw was that they gave the Get Up Kids some very harsh reviews, and I was like "nope, not for me". And inconsistency is in no way a crime, at least not when it means diversity. Noone should be able to say that my taste isn't diverse (even if it's predictable)..!

Taxman · 01-02-2014, 03:31 PM

Yep, if your able to like so different bands as Beatles, Iron Maiden and Get Up Kids, you have no problems with diversity. And it's good. I know my taste is not that diverse, at least but I'm working on it. And when it comes to Pitchfork the problem is that their reviews are kinda dull. You know, good review is great to read even when you disagree with it.

Isbjørn · 01-02-2014, 03:45 PM

I shouldn't insult Pitchfork too much, didn't get much further than the Get Up Kids reviews and some top lists I found by accident before losing interest (maybe it happened so quickly because of the magazine's reputation as a hipster phenomena). Also, though my taste is quite diverse, I haven't really gotten largely into too many different bands, except for the Beatles, Queen and maybe also Iron Maiden.

Taxman · 01-02-2014, 03:50 PM

It's better to get slightly into many bands than heavily into one. Though everybody needs one or two bands he/she completely loves. For me they are Beatles, Ramones and Nirvana.

Isbjørn · 01-04-2014, 02:23 PM

Finally taking Manky's recommendation

A day in late July 2013, I got a private message from Manky, in which he recommended an album by the Wrens called The Meadowlands. Until yesterday, it remained almost unplayed, I... forgot about it, until I entered an indie rock phase. While hungry for quality albums I suddenly remembered this one...

Artist: The Wrens
Album: The Meadowlands
Year: 2003
Genre: Indie rock/pop

1. "The House That Guilt Built"
2. "Happy"
3. "She Sends Kisses"
4. "This Boy Is Exhausted"
5. "Hopeless"
6. "Faster Gun"
7. "Thirteen Grand"
8. "Boys, You Won't"
9. "Ex-Girl Collection"
10. "Per Second Second"
11. "Everyone Choose Sides"
12. "13 Months in 6 Minutes"
13. "This Is Not What You Had Planned"

I liked this album very much, from start to finish. It's filled with sometimes mellow, sometimes distorted, always great pop songs, all written carefully while keeping the charming “rough indie edges”. The album starts off with a short introduction track which fades perfectly into the bass intro of one of the best tracks from the album, “Happy”. The follow-up, “She Sends Kisses”, has been stuck in my head all day; it's definitely my favourite. The tempo is picked up a little on track four, which reminds me of “I'm Gonna Make You Love Me” by the Jayhawks..! Other good tracks include “Hopeless”, “Boys, You Won't” and “Everyone Choose Sides”. One song that annoyed me a little was “Per Second Second”, since everything was so distorted I could neither understand what was being sung nor keep track of it while reading the lyrics.

A fantastic album that you should listen to right now if possible. If not, make it work somehow.

Isbjørn · 01-07-2014, 01:44 PM

Dude, double ripoff!

Apparently this January is Trollheart Ripoff Month. Guess what? For me, this is Powerstars Ripoff Month! Or week. Or day. Or four days, whatever.

What the heck *is* Powerstars Ripoff Month, anyway?

It is me ripping off Trollheart's "Classic Albums I Have Never Heard", and blaming Powerstars!

Sort of. Yesterday I made a list of albums I hadn't yet heard, some of which had been lying in my collection for a while already, and some others that had be recommended to me, but that I hadn't yet heard (like that Wrens album). I am going to try to work my way through that list, and maybe even write about some of the albums as I go (despite the title I will not rip anyone off any further in the foreseeable future, not even Trollheart or Powerstars).

Oh, and in case anyone's interested, here's a photo of the list (at least some of it), which was written on paper:

~~butthead aka 216~~ · 01-12-2014, 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Briks

I just listened to the Whenever, If Ever album. It's pretty good. Not stand-out-in-a-crowd good, but good. I will also say that Clarity is a really over rated album to me, from the aspect that a lot of people consider Jimmy Eat World to be a staple of late 90s - early '00s emo, and Clarity as their 'classic.' I guess that's arguable since Bleed American catapulted them into the mainstream but I actually prefer their poppy radio hits a lot more than their 'emo' stuff from Clarity. Interested to see what you think. I definitely want to listen to some more Christie Park Drive, and here's a fun fact you might not know: I've yet to listen to them, but there are a few Splits out there with Jimmy Eat World and Christie Park Drive. Might be cool to give them a listen since you seem interested in both bands.

Isbjørn · 01-12-2014, 06:57 AM

I think I'll start with Clarity. I like Jimmy Eat World's radio hits, but I think I prefer the ones I've heard from Clarity and Static Prevails.

Isbjørn · 01-17-2014, 10:05 AM

Finally, I'm starting with my rip-off of Trollheart's Classic Albums I Have Never Heard. As I mentioned in my reply to Butthead, I'll start with this one.

Title: Clarity
Band: Jimmy Eat World
Year: 1999
Chronological Position: Third (though the first one is little but a legend now)
Genre: Third wave emo
Previous experience: I've heard the singles from Bleed American, as well as some tracks from other albums including this one
Why is this considered a classic? I'm not sure, but it was caught between the second and the third wave of emo music and that may have something to do with it

My thoughts (good, great, bad, meh, still waiting or other?):
First minute: Good
One track in: Good
Halfway through: Alright
Finished: Good

Just as the third wave of emo was starting to take off for full, Jimmy Eat World released their second major label album. It's many fans' favourite, including Manky, who recommended this to me (man, I'm really bad at actually listening to the stuff people recommend me).
The album started off as expected, and continued in the same vein. It is quite commercial-sounding compared to other emo releases, 30 Degrees Everywhere, for instance, but that's how the third wave is. This is a good and catchy album, but I'm not sure if I'll consider it a classic.

Favourite track(s): “Lucky Denver Mint”, “Blister”, you know, the ones I already knew.
Least favourite track(s): “Goodbye Sky Harbor”, it's WAY too long for no apparent reason. Once it starts getting obnoxiously repetitive, just skip the rest.

Final impression: It'salright, even good, but it doesn't really stand out to me, thus I won't consider it a classic. I think it's a bit too polished to be considered “true emo”, if I may go all elitist without even having the right to.

Do I feel, at the end,
A) I wish I had listened to this sooner
B) I'm sorry I bothered
C) I might end up liking this
D) Have to wait and see
E) Bit underwhelmed; was ok but a classic?
F) Definitely enjoyed it, but again would I consider it a classic?

An obvious F. It's too good to be an E, but it's certainly not an A either.

01-02-2014, 02:47 PM	#31 (permalink)
Taxman watching the wheels Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Finland Posts: 470	Also, inconsistency ain't a crime. Don't care about genres, it is better that you write about what you want to. And variety is a spice of life, ain't it? __________________ ...

01-02-2014, 03:00 PM	#32 (permalink)
Isbjørn cooler commie than elph Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a hole, help Posts: 2,811	I don't trust pitchfork either. First thing I saw was that they gave the Get Up Kids some very harsh reviews, and I was like "nope, not for me". And inconsistency is in no way a crime, at least not when it means diversity. Noone should be able to say that my taste isn't diverse (even if it's predictable)..! __________________ fast(ml) Hear me play the guitar Look, mom! I got a journal

01-02-2014, 03:31 PM	#33 (permalink)
Taxman watching the wheels Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Finland Posts: 470	Yep, if your able to like so different bands as Beatles, Iron Maiden and Get Up Kids, you have no problems with diversity. And it's good. I know my taste is not that diverse, at least but I'm working on it. And when it comes to Pitchfork the problem is that their reviews are kinda dull. You know, good review is great to read even when you disagree with it. __________________ ...

01-02-2014, 03:45 PM	#34 (permalink)
Isbjørn cooler commie than elph Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a hole, help Posts: 2,811	I shouldn't insult Pitchfork too much, didn't get much further than the Get Up Kids reviews and some top lists I found by accident before losing interest (maybe it happened so quickly because of the magazine's reputation as a hipster phenomena). Also, though my taste is quite diverse, I haven't really gotten largely into too many different bands, except for the Beatles, Queen and maybe also Iron Maiden. __________________ fast(ml) Hear me play the guitar Look, mom! I got a journal

01-02-2014, 03:50 PM	#35 (permalink)
Taxman watching the wheels Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Finland Posts: 470	It's better to get slightly into many bands than heavily into one. Though everybody needs one or two bands he/she completely loves. For me they are Beatles, Ramones and Nirvana. __________________ ...

01-04-2014, 02:23 PM	#36 (permalink)
Isbjørn cooler commie than elph Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a hole, help Posts: 2,811	Finally taking Manky's recommendation A day in late July 2013, I got a private message from Manky, in which he recommended an album by the Wrens called The Meadowlands. Until yesterday, it remained almost unplayed, I... forgot about it, until I entered an indie rock phase. While hungry for quality albums I suddenly remembered this one... Artist: The Wrens Album: The Meadowlands Year: 2003 Genre: Indie rock/pop 1. "The House That Guilt Built" 2. "Happy" 3. "She Sends Kisses" 4. "This Boy Is Exhausted" 5. "Hopeless" 6. "Faster Gun" 7. "Thirteen Grand" 8. "Boys, You Won't" 9. "Ex-Girl Collection" 10. "Per Second Second" 11. "Everyone Choose Sides" 12. "13 Months in 6 Minutes" 13. "This Is Not What You Had Planned" I liked this album very much, from start to finish. It's filled with sometimes mellow, sometimes distorted, always great pop songs, all written carefully while keeping the charming “rough indie edges”. The album starts off with a short introduction track which fades perfectly into the bass intro of one of the best tracks from the album, “Happy”. The follow-up, “She Sends Kisses”, has been stuck in my head all day; it's definitely my favourite. The tempo is picked up a little on track four, which reminds me of “I'm Gonna Make You Love Me” by the Jayhawks..! Other good tracks include “Hopeless”, “Boys, You Won't” and “Everyone Choose Sides”. One song that annoyed me a little was “Per Second Second”, since everything was so distorted I could neither understand what was being sung nor keep track of it while reading the lyrics. A fantastic album that you should listen to right now if possible. If not, make it work somehow. __________________ fast(ml) Hear me play the guitar Look, mom! I got a journal

01-07-2014, 01:44 PM	#37 (permalink)
Isbjørn cooler commie than elph Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a hole, help Posts: 2,811	Dude, double ripoff! Apparently this January is Trollheart Ripoff Month. Guess what? For me, this is Powerstars Ripoff Month! Or week. Or day. Or four days, whatever. What the heck is Powerstars Ripoff Month, anyway? It is me ripping off Trollheart's "Classic Albums I Have Never Heard", and blaming Powerstars! Sort of. Yesterday I made a list of albums I hadn't yet heard, some of which had been lying in my collection for a while already, and some others that had be recommended to me, but that I hadn't yet heard (like that Wrens album). I am going to try to work my way through that list, and maybe even write about some of the albums as I go (despite the title I will not rip anyone off any further in the foreseeable future, not even Trollheart or Powerstars). Oh, and in case anyone's interested, here's a photo of the list (at least some of it), which was written on paper: __________________ fast(ml) Hear me play the guitar Look, mom! I got a journal

01-12-2014, 06:57 AM	#39 (permalink)
Isbjørn cooler commie than elph Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a hole, help Posts: 2,811	I think I'll start with Clarity. I like Jimmy Eat World's radio hits, but I think I prefer the ones I've heard from Clarity and Static Prevails. __________________ fast(ml) Hear me play the guitar Look, mom! I got a journal

01-17-2014, 10:05 AM	#40 (permalink)
Isbjørn cooler commie than elph Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a hole, help Posts: 2,811	Finally, I'm starting with my rip-off of Trollheart's Classic Albums I Have Never Heard. As I mentioned in my reply to Butthead, I'll start with this one. Title: Clarity Band: Jimmy Eat World Year: 1999 Chronological Position: Third (though the first one is little but a legend now) Genre: Third wave emo Previous experience: I've heard the singles from Bleed American, as well as some tracks from other albums including this one Why is this considered a classic? I'm not sure, but it was caught between the second and the third wave of emo music and that may have something to do with it My thoughts (good, great, bad, meh, still waiting or other?): First minute: Good One track in: Good Halfway through: Alright Finished: Good Just as the third wave of emo was starting to take off for full, Jimmy Eat World released their second major label album. It's many fans' favourite, including Manky, who recommended this to me (man, I'm really bad at actually listening to the stuff people recommend me). The album started off as expected, and continued in the same vein. It is quite commercial-sounding compared to other emo releases, 30 Degrees Everywhere, for instance, but that's how the third wave is. This is a good and catchy album, but I'm not sure if I'll consider it a classic. Favourite track(s): “Lucky Denver Mint”, “Blister”, you know, the ones I already knew. Least favourite track(s): “Goodbye Sky Harbor”, it's WAY too long for no apparent reason. Once it starts getting obnoxiously repetitive, just skip the rest. Final impression: It'salright, even good, but it doesn't really stand out to me, thus I won't consider it a classic. I think it's a bit too polished to be considered “true emo”, if I may go all elitist without even having the right to. *Do I feel, at the end,* A) I wish I had listened to this sooner B) I'm sorry I bothered C) I might end up liking this D) Have to wait and see E) Bit underwhelmed; was ok but a classic? F) Definitely enjoyed it, but again would I consider it a classic? An obvious F. It's too good to be an E, but it's certainly not an A either. __________________ fast(ml) Hear me play the guitar Look, mom! I got a journal Last edited by Isbjørn; 01-17-2014 at 11:25 AM.