The Poseur Cave

The Batlord · 12-04-2015, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Violently stabbing a friend to death will do that to a person.

Assuming that they have the musical chops, then someone that crazy may very well be able to come up with something truly original and fantastic. Even if I were a songwriter of Beatles quality, I still wouldn't have that kind of bizarre outlook on life, the universe, and everything that might produce a work of such strange originality.

Mondo Bungle · 12-04-2015, 05:31 PM

The second half of In the Castle of the Dream is easily one of the most awesome/epic moments in the history of recorded sound, and the repetition from the first half builds the tension so deep to make the climax so much more rewarding sonically and sexually. the only lame thing about this song is at the end, when he comes through with basically the sickest riff ever but starts the fade out immediately. At least thirty more seconds would have been fantastic.

It's alright though, even the best of us are wrong sometimes, including Varg himself, who opted to leave quite possibly the most awesome Burzum song off this album because he thought it sucked. It would have been the closer I think.

Isbjørn · 02-01-2016, 03:37 PM

Haiku reviews

MIKA - Life in Cartoon Motion

Help, I'm addicted
It started with "Grace Kelly"
****ing fabulous

3.5/5

Gatas Parlament - Holdning Over Underholdning

Yep, that's commie rap
I found it in a thrift shop
It's hilarious

4/5

Isbjørn · 02-04-2016, 02:59 PM

Jazz recs wanted

So - now, in secondary high, I'm taking a music programme, meaning that in addition to the commmon core subjects, I have various music-related subjects as well (including instrument lessons). In the musical history subject, where the lessons are 50% listening to music and 50% placing said music in a historic context, we just finished the chapters on popular music - including jazz. Now, I was already familiar with the rock and pop parts of the topic (really superficial - a couple of my peers were confusing Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath more than once, so performing well on the test wasn't really an issue). But jazz was (and, well, is) pretty new to me. I've listened to a couple of albums already, but I don't know if I'm even "understanding" them correctly, and I've never really made an effort to dig into the genre. If you asked me just a couple of weeks ago to separate bop from swing, I couldn't have answered. But now I want to get a closer look at it all, and I'm going to need some help with that.

What I want is album recommendations, preferably with a few comments on what to look for while listening. Old classics and great, new stuff, it's all good, but preferably somewhat accessible stuff. I'm a newcomer - like, hold the free jazz for a while. I might give a few comments on the recommended albums in here if I manage to form an opinion on them, articulate said opinion, and find the time and effort to write a half-decent chunk of text on it - but a journal series isn't really the goal here.

Cheers.

Pet_Sounds · 02-04-2016, 03:21 PM

I see you've already listened to Miles Davis's Kind of Blue. I'd recommend 'Round Midnight as a good follow-up to that. John Coltrane played with Miles--try My Favorite Things (blasted American spelling

). Dave Brubeck was the artist I got into jazz through--Time Out is a nice entry-level album for anyone.

grindy · 02-04-2016, 03:34 PM

Oh boy...
As you might have guessed I'm all about the free jazz, but I do know a bit about the older, less experimental stuff.

Miles Davis - Kind Of Blue
One of the most famous and, as far as I remember, most successful jazz albums. It's considered a masterpiee of modern jazz and I can't imagine any kind of jazz education without it.

Miles Davis - A Tribute To Jack Johnson
Let's stay with Miles here for a second. He made a lot of amazign albums in his fusion phase. Most people would recommend "Bitches Brew", but I'm gonna go with this one since it's shorter and more concise. Soem great jazz-rocking here.

Sonny Rollins - Saxophone Colossus
Great, fun, swinging hard bop album. As you might have guessed it's alla bout the saxophone here, although I also really like the drums here. Soem say Roach's drumming is too heavy-handed here, but screw those people. It's great.

Bill Evans Trio - Waltz For Debby
Beautiful piano trio music. It works well as background easy listening, but it'd be a waste. Wonderful, delicate, but complex playing. Bill Evans is an amazing pianist, but LaFaro's lyrical bass and Motian's mostly brushed drums are equally part of the magic.

Oscar Peterson Trio - Night Train
Another piano trio. Peterson is one of the jazz piano virtuosos. Amazing, groovy stuff. YOu immediately feel cool as hell when putting this one on.

Ornette Coleman - The Shape Of Jazz To Come
This one is regarded as one of the first free jazz albums. Don't let that scare you off. No wild screeching here. It's looser than the albums previously mentioned, but in no way chaotic. Lonely Woman is one of the most gorgeous jazz songs in existence and one of the most played standards. Overall very emotional and vital music on this album.

Eric Dolphy - Out To Lunch
Another free jazz classic whose genre shouldn't scare you off. Weirder than the album above, but so amazingly tight and inventive, you'll be entertained from start to finish.

John Coltrane - A Love Supreme
One of the last more accessible Coltrane albums. Still pretty wild, his sax is amazing and there is some amazing piano playing from McCoy Tyner on that. Rhythm section freaking rocks as well.

Charles Mingus - The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady
A relatively big ensemble plays Mingus's amazing composition. Unique and mindblowing music. Hard to describe it or write about it at all, it has to be experienced.

Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers - A Night In Tunisia (1961)
Nicely showcasing Blakey's drumming this album has some more conventional pieces, as well as some wilder, almost tribal stuff. Great soloing from all involved.

Gonna take a break now. I'm sure I missed a lot of absolutely essential albums. Also sure Frownland will fill in some of the gaps and possibly contest some of the albums I chose.
So much older stuff I haven't mentioned yet, not to mention newer jazz I haven't covered at all.

Isbjørn · 02-04-2016, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds

I see you've already listened to Miles Davis's Kind of Blue. I'd recommend 'Round Midnight as a good follow-up to that. John Coltrane played with Miles--try My Favorite Things (blasted American spelling

). Dave Brubeck was the artist I got into jazz through--Time Out is a nice entry-level album for anyone.

Actually, I was pondering real hard on the time signature of Brubeck's "Blue Rondo Á La Turk" earlier today. Figured it had to be 9/8, then listened with one of my classmates, who came to the same conclusion. Haven't listened to the rest of the album though, I'm gonna have to do that. Thanks for the recs!

Pet_Sounds · 02-04-2016, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isbjørn

Actually, I was pondering real hard on the time signature of Brubeck's "Blue Rondo Á La Turk" earlier today. Figured it had to be 9/8, then listened with one of my classmates, who came to the same conclusion. Haven't listened to the rest of the album though, I'm gonna have to do that. Thanks for the recs!

It is 9/8, but it's not counted like a normal 9/8. The whole album uses funky time signatures, hence the title.

Isbjørn · 02-04-2016, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grindy

Oh boy...
As you might have guessed I'm all about the free jazz, but I do know a bit about the older, less experimental stuff.

Miles Davis - Kind Of Blue
One of the most famous and, as far as I remember, most successful jazz albums. It's considered a masterpiee of modern jazz and I can't imagine any kind of jazz education without it.

Miles Davis - A Tribute To Jack Johnson
Let's stay with Miles here for a second. He made a lot of amazign albums in his fusion phase. Most people would recommend "Bitches Brew", but I'm gonna go with this one since it's shorter and more concise. Soem great jazz-rocking here.

Sonny Rollins - Saxophone Colossus
Great, fun, swinging hard bop album. As you might have guessed it's alla bout the saxophone here, although I also really like the drums here. Soem say Roach's drumming is too heavy-handed here, but screw those people. It's great.

Bill Evans Trio - Waltz For Debby
Beautiful piano trio music. It works well as background easy listening, but it'd be a waste. Wonderful, delicate, but complex playing. Bill Evans is an amazing pianist, but LaFaro's lyrical bass and Motian's mostly brushed drums are equally part of the magic.

Oscar Peterson Trio - Night Train
Another piano trio. Peterson is one of the jazz piano virtuosos. Amazing, groovy stuff. YOu immediately feel cool as hell when putting this one on.

Ornette Coleman - The Shape Of Jazz To Come
This one is regarded as one of the first free jazz albums. Don't let that scare you off. No wild screeching here. It's looser than the albums previously mentioned, but in no way chaotic. Lonely Woman is one of the most gorgeous jazz songs in existence and one of the most played standards. Overall very emotional and vital music on this album.

Eric Dolphy - Out To Lunch
Another free jazz classic whose genre shouldn't scare you off. Weirder than the album above, but so amazingly tight and inventive, you'll be entertained from start to finish.

John Coltrane - A Love Supreme
One of the last more accessible Coltrane albums. Still pretty wild, his sax is amazing and there is some amazing piano playing from McCoy Tyner on that. Rhythm section freaking rocks as well.

Charles Mingus - The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady
A relatively big ensemble plays Mingus's amazing composition. Unique and mindblowing music. Hard to describe it or write about it at all, it has to be experienced.

Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers - A Night In Tunisia (1961)
Nicely showcasing Blakey's drumming this album has some more conventional pieces, as well as some wilder, almost tribal stuff. Great soloing from all involved.

Gonna take a break now. I'm sure I missed a lot of absolutely essential albums. Also sure Frownland will fill in some of the gaps and possibly contest some of the albums I chose.
So much older stuff I haven't mentioned yet, not to mention newer jazz I haven't covered at all.

That's a great list. Thanks! I already know Kind of Blue and A Love Supreme. I'll try to have a look at the rest as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds

It is 9/8, but it's not counted like a normal 9/8. The whole album uses funky time signatures, hence the title.

Yeah, it's like "12 12 12 123" and then "123 123 123". Took me a while.

PavementRunner · 02-05-2016, 08:17 AM

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02-01-2016, 03:37 PM	#383 (permalink)
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Isbjørn cooler commie than elph Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a hole, help Posts: 2,811	Jazz recs wanted So - now, in secondary high, I'm taking a music programme, meaning that in addition to the commmon core subjects, I have various music-related subjects as well (including instrument lessons). In the musical history subject, where the lessons are 50% listening to music and 50% placing said music in a historic context, we just finished the chapters on popular music - including jazz. Now, I was already familiar with the rock and pop parts of the topic (really superficial - a couple of my peers were confusing Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath more than once, so performing well on the test wasn't really an issue). But jazz was (and, well, is) pretty new to me. I've listened to a couple of albums already, but I don't know if I'm even "understanding" them correctly, and I've never really made an effort to dig into the genre. If you asked me just a couple of weeks ago to separate bop from swing, I couldn't have answered. But now I want to get a closer look at it all, and I'm going to need some help with that. What I want is album recommendations, preferably with a few comments on what to look for while listening. Old classics and great, new stuff, it's all good, but preferably somewhat accessible stuff. I'm a newcomer - like, hold the free jazz for a while. I might give a few comments on the recommended albums in here if I manage to form an opinion on them, articulate said opinion, and find the time and effort to write a half-decent chunk of text on it - but a journal series isn't really the goal here. Cheers. __________________ fast(ml) Hear me play the guitar Look, mom! I got a journal

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Pet_Sounds Remember the underscore Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: The other side Posts: 2,488	I see you've already listened to Miles Davis's Kind of Blue. I'd recommend 'Round Midnight as a good follow-up to that. John Coltrane played with Miles--try My Favorite Things (blasted American spelling ). Dave Brubeck was the artist I got into jazz through--Time Out is a nice entry-level album for anyone. __________________ Everybody's dying just to get the disease

02-04-2016, 03:34 PM	#386 (permalink)
grindy . Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: . Posts: 7,201	Oh boy... As you might have guessed I'm all about the free jazz, but I do know a bit about the older, less experimental stuff. Miles Davis - Kind Of Blue One of the most famous and, as far as I remember, most successful jazz albums. It's considered a masterpiee of modern jazz and I can't imagine any kind of jazz education without it. Miles Davis - A Tribute To Jack Johnson Let's stay with Miles here for a second. He made a lot of amazign albums in his fusion phase. Most people would recommend "Bitches Brew", but I'm gonna go with this one since it's shorter and more concise. Soem great jazz-rocking here. Sonny Rollins - Saxophone Colossus Great, fun, swinging hard bop album. As you might have guessed it's alla bout the saxophone here, although I also really like the drums here. Soem say Roach's drumming is too heavy-handed here, but screw those people. It's great. Bill Evans Trio - Waltz For Debby Beautiful piano trio music. It works well as background easy listening, but it'd be a waste. Wonderful, delicate, but complex playing. Bill Evans is an amazing pianist, but LaFaro's lyrical bass and Motian's mostly brushed drums are equally part of the magic. Oscar Peterson Trio - Night Train Another piano trio. Peterson is one of the jazz piano virtuosos. Amazing, groovy stuff. YOu immediately feel cool as hell when putting this one on. Ornette Coleman - The Shape Of Jazz To Come This one is regarded as one of the first free jazz albums. Don't let that scare you off. No wild screeching here. It's looser than the albums previously mentioned, but in no way chaotic. Lonely Woman is one of the most gorgeous jazz songs in existence and one of the most played standards. Overall very emotional and vital music on this album. Eric Dolphy - Out To Lunch Another free jazz classic whose genre shouldn't scare you off. Weirder than the album above, but so amazingly tight and inventive, you'll be entertained from start to finish. John Coltrane - A Love Supreme One of the last more accessible Coltrane albums. Still pretty wild, his sax is amazing and there is some amazing piano playing from McCoy Tyner on that. Rhythm section freaking rocks as well. Charles Mingus - The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady A relatively big ensemble plays Mingus's amazing composition. Unique and mindblowing music. Hard to describe it or write about it at all, it has to be experienced. Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers - A Night In Tunisia (1961) Nicely showcasing Blakey's drumming this album has some more conventional pieces, as well as some wilder, almost tribal stuff. Great soloing from all involved. Gonna take a break now. I'm sure I missed a lot of absolutely essential albums. Also sure Frownland will fill in some of the gaps and possibly contest some of the albums I chose. So much older stuff I haven't mentioned yet, not to mention newer jazz I haven't covered at all. __________________ *A smell of petroleum prevails throughout.*

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